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Old 07-06-07, 06:34 AM   #1
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New Nikon D80, now what lens...

Just bought a Nikon D80 DSLR camera. Love it, pics are amazing. I can't wait to take some bike action pics. I'm using our older lenses, a Nikkor 50mm, and Tamron 28-200. The 50 is a great lens, and the Tamron is ok, but I would like to go a little wider. Tamron has a new ultra range 18-250 lens, that gets seems to get decent reviews, but you give up some speed and quality for that range. Nikkor has a very highly rated 18-200 VR lens, but it's at least $300 more then the Tamron, and often out of stock. Any thoughts? I'm already loving the camera, so looking forward to a new lens.
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No advice about lenses, but let's see some pics!
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Ken rockwell is always helpful with his reviews.
The 18-200 dx vr is in stock at adorama btw and is probably your best bet for an all rounder.

Personally that's what I would've gotten at the time I bought my d200 but they were on like, an 18 month waiting list, so I opted for the 24-120, which on the digital sensor is something like 36-150.

For a dual lens, a lot of people recommend something like an 18-55 then a big boy, 200+.

We're a nikon family and my dad always said, you buy the lenses, the body's just an accessory. In which case, stick with nikon lenses.
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Take a photo of your new camera, with your new camera, and then post.

Extra bonus points if you can take it without looking right into a mirror
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IMHO, if you want something to be wide angle, it needs to be REALLY wide angle.

I have a 50mm lens for my RB67 (equivelent to a 25mm) and a 28mm lens on my 35mm SLR. In both cases, it's wide, but it doesn't really feel wide.

The 17mm lens feels wide. So... ehrm... a zoom lens for your D80 that tops out at 10-12mm is probably the way to go if you want to feel "wide".
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Bah, now this thread has me shopping for lenses. Less on the Nikkor side of things and more over in Canonville, though.

*begins drooling over the letter L*
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The 18-200 dx vr

That is the right choice. I use it on my D200 and love the versatility. That was the only lens I took on a recent trip to Ireland and I never needed a second lens.
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That is the right choice. I use it on my D200 and love the versatility. That was the only lens I took on a recent trip to Ireland and I never needed a second lens.
Bastid! How'd you get a hold of one??? Unless you mean recently.. cause a few years ago, I would've killed for one of those.
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I remember reading a bunch of reviews about the 18-200 and there was a really negative aspect about that lens. Can't remember what it was....might have had bad vignetting problems. I always preferred prime lenses, but some of the zooms are really good. I've been looking at some of the high end offerings from Tokina, Sigma, and Tamron for my D80. I also have a 80-200mm 2.8 nikkor - that may be the best zoom lens ever made.

That said my 50 1.8 stays on the camera most of the time. Cheap and wicked sharp, plus gives the camera a super bright viewfinder which makes the autofocus work faster. It's probably my favorite lens to work with.
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Thanks guys, the problem is it's $900! B&H has it for $750, but no stock. Seems Nikon isn't keeping up with demand, forcing prices higher.
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As stated, Ken Rockwell is a good source; Nikonians is as well.
Check out D80 Forum
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Nikkor Lens Forum

MTF Curves are one of the best ways to judge a lenses' performance in the digital domain.

Here is the Global Nikon Site DX Lens index.

Here's a few key lens MTF Charts (wide end):

18-55


18-70


18-135
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35mm f2.8 or a 50mm f1.4 lens
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I was instantly going to say "Canon!".

If the 50 1.8 is anything like canons, don't hesitate, BUY IT! I love my 50 1.4! (metal version and a little faster than the 1.8).

I'm gonna second Ravenmore on primes. Can't beat em.
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For an all around lens, I like the 24-120VR. I also use an older 50 1.8. I have a D70.

For a wide angle zoom, look into the sigma 12-24... took this with it.

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I really like the 18-70 3.5-4.5. It's a little slow for indoors, but 3.5 is manageable. It has a decent range equivalent to 27-105. It's compact and doesn't weigh much.

although it is a little on the pricey side. It came w/ my camera, but if the option was available at the time i would have bought the 18-200vr except for the cost. I got my d70 w/ the 18-70 for $800 new march 2005.

you also have another option in the 18-135 and then the 18-55 which is cheap and slow but good to learn on.

barring no expense i'd get the 17-55 2.8 and the 70-200vr.


^^^ i think you'd miss the wide end on the 24-120 = ~36-180 on digital.
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I have the Nikkor 18-200 VR on my D80 - was lucky enough to get one of the first, and for a long time only, three such lenses in Berne - and I'm very happy with it. I hardly use any other lenses at all any more.

If you can get hold of it, to my mind it's worth its price.
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heehee. if you had bought a pentax you could have gone with the pentax 50-200mm lense (get's great reviews), and the pentax 50mm f/1.4 prime for $400, and you would have alread had a decent 18-55mm lense.
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Didn't someone tout a 30-300 zoom lens in the Nikon mount format recently? Obviously its optic quality probably isn't great because of the sheer zoom range, but for a one-stop-shop to carry around, it sounds like a decent lens.
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That question really begs knowing what you plan to shoot in order to make a good recommendation.

Almost everyone needs the 18-55 range, but with options like the 18-200 VR, the choice isn't limited to just the 18-55 lens. The 18-200 gives you a lot of versatility, and VR rocks.

I didn't want to spend the $850 or whatever Adorama is charging for it and possibly wait 3 months, so I hung onto the 18-55 kit lens that came with my D40 and got the brand new 55-200 VR (only $250!) for longer shooting. According to reviews, it doesn't focus quite as fast as the 18-200, has a more plastic build and doesn't have an A/M focus option, but for the features it does have and the price, it definitely fit my needs. However, changing lenses can be annoying, and the 55-200 has a plastic bayonet which may wear out over time.

Ken Rockwell has compared the two.

For slightly longer, Nikon also makes a nice feeling 70-300 VR.

I've been toying around with the idea of a 12-24 for wide angles, but those get pretty spendy.

Taken with Nikkor 55-200 VR at 150 mm, F/5.3 ISO-400, 1/1000 s:
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How'd you get a hold of one??? Unless you mean recently.. cause a few years ago, I would've killed for one of those.
In my case, I paid my local camera store (where I also bought my bodies) MSRP to get the first (or maybe it was the second) 18-200mm that came in. While a bag of several lenses can be better optically, I'm happy with my decision to buy and walk around with this zoom. I think that the vibration reduction feature helps to compensate for the relatively slow speed (f/3.5-5.6).

BTW, here's a shot taken with the 18-200mm mounted on a D50:
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BTW, here's a shot taken with the 18-200mm mounted on a D50:
Couldn't you have opened up the aperature and used a flash to get the wings? Freaking bird, SLOW DOWN!
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Couldn't you have opened up the aperature and used a flash to get the wings? Freaking bird, SLOW DOWN!
Bah. Real fun would be to have used the flash but kept the aperture and shutter speed the same. You'd "freeze" the wings in one position but still suggest motion.

I was getting weird looks from bystanders for today's photo ride because I was using a flash in broad daylight.
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I was getting weird looks from bystanders for today's photo ride because I was using a flash in broad daylight.
You know what would get you weirder looks? Flashing in broad day light.
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Couldn't you have opened up the aperature and used a flash to get the wings?
Well, the aperature was opened to the max (f5.6) possible at that focal length (200mm), and a flash would have bounced back from the glass of the window I shot thru. Anyway, I kind of like how the "flow" of the wings (instead of the wings themselves) is visible.
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So you were stalking some bird and photographing it from afar like some pervert?
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