Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 21 of 21
  1. #1
    la vache fantôme phantomcow2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    6,266
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    increase my wifi range

    So I got my new wireless router functioning. It works, but not as well as I would like. I attribute some of this to it's location; the cellar. This however, is unavoidable. Does anybody have any methods of increasing my signal strength? THe increase has to come from the source, the router.
    Would it be possible to replace my antenna with something that has a little more substance? Could I run a wire from the router, and essentially move the antenna to another location?
    C://dos
    C://dos.run
    run.dos.run

  2. #2
    Banned. timmyquest's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Woodstock
    Posts
    5,770
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  3. #3
    POWERCRANK addict markhr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    North Acton, West London, UK
    Posts
    3,783
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    shameless POWERCRANK plug
    Recommended reading for all cyclists - Cyclecraft - Effective Cycling
    Condor Cycles - quite possibly the best bike shop in London
    Don't run red lights, wear a helmet, use hand signals, get some cycle lights(front and rear) and, FFS, don't run red lights!

  4. #4
    Banned. timmyquest's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Woodstock
    Posts
    5,770
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Hmmm
    Taking the pringles can antenna to another level

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ntenna&x=0&y=0

  5. #5
    Retro-nerd georgiaboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Morningside - Atlanta
    My Bikes
    2002 Cannondale Badboy, 2004 Bianchi Vigorelli
    Posts
    1,583
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    eh...

    Would you like a dream with that?

  6. #6
    la vache fantôme phantomcow2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    6,266
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Would it be possible to extend the antenna, and have the antenna actually end in a more suitable place?
    C://dos
    C://dos.run
    run.dos.run

  7. #7
    On my TARDIScycle! KingTermite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
    My Bikes
    Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
    Posts
    3,928
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I know a guy who found an embedded linux to burn to his router's firmware. He turned the gain up on the antenna to well past FCC regulations and supposedly got a range of over 1/2 mile. This is the only good method I know of....no idea where to find embedded linux for the router though.
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

  8. #8
    Banned. timmyquest's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Woodstock
    Posts
    5,770
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite
    I know a guy who found an embedded linux to burn to his router's firmware. He turned the gain up on the antenna to well past FCC regulations and supposedly got a range of over 1/2 mile. This is the only good method I know of....no idea where to find embedded linux for the router though.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G

    Thats what i'll do tonight, i've been meaning to do that. Its only in certain versions and my roommate had the right one, he was confused but when i asked him if we coudl switch he said sure.

  9. #9
    Wood Licker Maelstrom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Whistler,BC
    My Bikes
    Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002 and specialized BMX
    Posts
    16,889
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by BugsInMyTeeth
    None of the wifi antenna solutions will help much through floors and concrete (only for greater distance through open air). Your best bet is to try to run a CAT5/6 cable to the middle floor, and drop the wifi transceiver there.


    edit: You have some sort of broadband modem, which is connected to the wifi router with a LAN cable, right?
    That would be best case. Multiple repeaters on seperate channels. Any other solution is patch work.

    I have heard about the "hacks" and they do work...they still don't blow through concrete though

  10. #10
    Videre non videri
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    My Bikes
    1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike
    Posts
    3,202
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Since wifi operates at such a high frequency, it's pretty easy to build a set of stacked dipoles. Since we tend to have all our electronic equipment at roughly the same level, vertically stacked vertical dipoles work fine.

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    620
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G

    Thats what i'll do tonight, i've been meaning to do that. Its only in certain versions and my roommate had the right one, he was confused but when i asked him if we coudl switch he said sure.
    Certain versions of the "G" or "GS" model(v4 or earlier)...or you can get a "GL" model that you can flash also. The L is for Linux. I just bought one. http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Cisco-.../dp/B000BTL0OA


    Lots of good info here... http://www.wrtrouters.com/firmware/wrt54g/

    Warning... Flashing with new firmware can turn a router into a brick if something goes wrong.
    Last edited by dragracer; 07-09-07 at 10:46 AM.

  12. #12
    On my TARDIScycle! KingTermite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
    My Bikes
    Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
    Posts
    3,928
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by dragracer
    Certain versions of the "G" or "GS" model(v4 or earlier)...or you can get a "GL" model that you can flash also. The L is for Linux. I just bought one. http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Cisco-.../dp/B000BTL0OA


    Lots of good info here... http://www.wrtrouters.com/firmware/wrt54g/

    Warning... Flashing with new firmware can turn ANYTHING into a brick if something goes wrong.
    Fixed it for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

  13. #13
    Roadmaster Snobbery Club bhtooefr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Newark, Ohio
    My Bikes
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1, 2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    Posts
    753
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Actually, all versions of the G/GS can get flashed.

    Nobody's made a version for v8 yet... v5 through v7 have a micro version of DD-WRT available.

    But, we need to know... what model of router do you have, phantomcow?

    Higher gain antennas cannot hurt at all.

    And, FWIW, turning up the power output makes the PC RECIEVE from the router more easily, but it does NOTHING for SENDING to the router. Unless, of course, you hack your WiFi card's firmware as well, and turn up the power there. (Be careful with all of this, this can make things overheat and release the magic smoke. )
    2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1 (with 1976 F&S R 2110 2-speed kickback hub)

  14. #14
    Erectible Member pedalMonger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Enroute
    Posts
    515
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Anybody got any tips on wifi equipment for piggybacking at home, thats reasonably priced. I really am not interested in DIY, like a pringles can on the roof with a hobby motor to zero-in on open routers, just a simple uni antenna will do. Something uni directional, but that can pick up signals and transmit to a coffee shop that is a mile or two away, for instance. I know how to set up tunnels, so not worried about the data being vulnerable on unsecured wifi (I know how to crack wep with whoppix distros also, but not interested in breaking the law )
    Milky Is The Way
    -----
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] : http://www.gravel2008.us : Democracy.mp3

  15. #15
    Roadmaster Snobbery Club bhtooefr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Newark, Ohio
    My Bikes
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1, 2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    Posts
    753
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Unidirectional? Then a super cantenna. Your basic pringles can, just not DIY, and better quality and signal. 1-2 mile range max.

    Getting beyond that, non-DIY gets super expensive. An old Primestar dish modded to have a WiFi antenna where the satellite antenna was will do even better. Heck, slap a Pringles can on there. I forget the approximate range when the other end is an ordinary omnidirectional antenna like you find on most routers, though. 20 miles max when there's another Primestar dish involved.
    2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1 (with 1976 F&S R 2110 2-speed kickback hub)

  16. #16
    Erectible Member pedalMonger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Enroute
    Posts
    515
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bhtooefr
    Unidirectional? Then a super cantenna. Your basic pringles can, just not DIY, and better quality and signal. 1-2 mile range max.

    Getting beyond that, non-DIY gets super expensive. An old Primestar dish modded to have a WiFi antenna where the satellite antenna was will do even better. Heck, slap a Pringles can on there. I forget the approximate range when the other end is an ordinary omnidirectional antenna like you find on most routers, though. 20 miles max when there's another Primestar dish involved.
    Hrm, links?

    BTW, am I still idling in your channel? I forgot I sent my BNC there, and haven't logged on IRC in awhile
    Milky Is The Way
    -----
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] : http://www.gravel2008.us : Democracy.mp3

  17. #17
    Erectible Member pedalMonger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Enroute
    Posts
    515
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    And whats a good omni directional setup for outdoors? That might simplify things. I could get at least a dozen open wifi signals ina 1 mile range even. Thats not exactly legal either really, unless ya have the owners permission. McDonalds has wifi now too, I think you have to sign up and pay a fee. There is one close by, I am wondering if I get the right equipment and pay a small fee to use something like McDonalds wifi, if it will save me money in the long run over using cable broadband. There is DSL too, but they require a landline still, and my cell phone is good enough for that.
    Milky Is The Way
    -----
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] : http://www.gravel2008.us : Democracy.mp3

  18. #18
    Erectible Member pedalMonger's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Enroute
    Posts
    515
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hrm, tried finding what a subscription fee is for McDonalds, they want me to submit a bunch of info to get to the pricing scheme.

    But there is this project thats supposed to be done sometime this year, where I live:

    Wireless Washtenaw is a county community coming together to provide free or lower-cost access to the Internet for anyone in Washtenaw County, regardless of their location or economic status. Perhaps the most exciting aspect of Wireless Washtenaw is that the extraordinary collaboration of the private and public sectors will mean that this wireless network will be available county-wide, with no taxpayer dollars spent on its construction, maintenance, and operation.

    http://wireless.ewashtenaw.org/
    EDIT: hrm, the free version is only speeds up to 84kbps, after that the price is about the same as cable broadband. I guess there's still no free lunch for Internet access.

    There are restaurants and cafes that have free access, but you're supposed to be in the store as a customer to use it. Somebody in MI got charged with a felony for using the open wifi of a coffee shop outside of the store: http://www.informationweek.com/blog/...r_inciden.html
    Last edited by pedalMonger; 07-09-07 at 02:00 PM.
    Milky Is The Way
    -----
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] : http://www.gravel2008.us : Democracy.mp3

  19. #19
    Roadmaster Snobbery Club bhtooefr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Newark, Ohio
    My Bikes
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1, 2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    Posts
    753
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You probably are still idling, lol... kicking you will do no good, though, because I can't disconnect you from the network...

    As for links:

    http://www.cantenna.com/
    http://www.wwc.edu/frohro/Airport/Pr...Primestar.html
    2011 TerraTrike Path 8
    2002 Dahon Boardwalk 1 (with 1976 F&S R 2110 2-speed kickback hub)

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    620
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite
    Fixed it for you.

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    620
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by bhtooefr
    Actually, all versions of the G/GS can get flashed.

    ...... v5 through v7 have a micro version of DD-WRT available.
    Yup, thanks for the correction. Forgot about the micro version.

    I have the full version of DD-WRT and also HyperWRT......but just havn't had the guts to try the flash thing yet. My wife would prolly beat me severely if I broke it.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •