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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Why are certain brand riders so stuck up??

    TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me. Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra, had the wrong pedals and shoes or didn't "flip it"??? What the heck?? What gives??

    Dang roadies.
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    People suck.

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    It's not you, it's them Siu. I just let them be knowing I gave them a greeting but they were too snooty to return it, their bad. But, get the lycra together, it's much more comfy on the tushie
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    You'd also be wicked hot in lycra, killer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty
    It's not you, it's them Siu.
    Exactly. You've offered your greeting and kind words. If they can't can't show a modicum of civility in response, then the hell with them. It's no skin off your nose.

    Some people are just dicks. Bike or not.

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    Yeah, extending well wishes to others without the return sux and tends to sap you of positive energy.

    Siu, please take my advice and stop counting. It will only empower the frustration.
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    I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me. Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra, had the wrong pedals and shoes or didn't "flip it"??? What the heck?? What gives??

    Dang roadies.
    I feel this way at work all the time. Except it's just that, as far as I can tell, people are freaking weird. It's an unsettling feeling, though, you wonder what the HECK is wrong with them that they can't muster up even a simple, minimal-energy-expending polite nod of acknowledgment.

    Like X said, to hell with 'em.
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    So if they don't say hi back, they're automatically snobs? How, exactly, does that work?

    Am I a car snob because I don't acknowledge other Toyota drivers?

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    I'll acknowledge other riders but they don't always return my wave. I don't really care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.
    See, that's what it seems to be at my work, too. I don't understand that attitude. Is it physically painful to be friendly, or what?

    When you notice that a stranger has just said "Hello" to you or has smiled specifically in your direction, you just...look away? What if it's a stranger but you just almost bumped into them coming through a door; do you share a moment of friendly "Oops!" or do you brush past them like they don't exist? How about cashiers or checkout people? Do you acknowledge their chitchat or just ignore them? What about co-workers/team-members--If you walk into a meeting and someone says "Hi" do you respond to them? What if you saw them on the sidewalk somewhere?

    At what point does someone qualify to be acknowledged? I mean, does it go through your brain like, "Do I know that person? No: ignore." Or do they not even register on your consciousness because you're so used to not responding?

    Sincere questions, here. I can't talk to these people in the halls at work to ask them, you get to be a surrogate. (I'm prepared for the fact that your not giving a damn will extend to not answering nosy questions from a stranger on the internet.)

    Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back.
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    WTF is a 'Moot'???? I'm sure I can live without one so the point is moot.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage1
    Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back.
    That's about it, really. I have no desire to say hi or chit chat with anyone just because they're feeling talkative or are uncomfortable with silence between two people. If they have a problem with me not responding then that's exactly what it is: their problem.

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    Stupid people are stupid.

    Maybe they were horrified by the drop in exclusivity of their once-obscure frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    I don't greet. It's not snobbery, I just don't give a damn.
    I would agree, Depending on my mood I might just be up to being social. And yes, a wave and a high is social. Sometimes I am in my own head and don't want to be interupted

    Same at work and in life. Sometimes my close friends and family just know I am busy doing something in my head, and they know to leave me alone.

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    There are a few Moots guys around here. I've never had more than a 2 word conversation with any single one of them, and none of them seem too crazy about their bikes.

    People ask me how I like my LOOK, and I usually reply enthusiastically and I give them a paragraph about what I love. Moots people seem to just shrug and say "it's nice".
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    since this post is about bikes, it really shouldn't be in foo. someone should move it to the roadie forum so the OCP crowd there can get all worked up about the foo 'I don't give a ***** about your rare and priceless piece of crap bike' 'tude.


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    My Wolverine buddies always think it's funny when I show up on my old steel Schwinn wearing blue jeans and a Camelback, but that doesn't alter the fact I can stomp all over most of them. Just the same, everyone around here is respectful of my fredness. Even people with Seven's and Moots's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    TWICE since I've gotten my bike, I've seen Moots owners and said hi or complimented their bikes. TWICE I've gotten a nose turned up to me. Other people are cool with me.
    Is there something wrong with Moots owners? I don't know any IRL.

    Seriously, though. They aren't taking you "seriously". Mostly, it's on them to judge or not judge on sight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    had the wrong pedals and
    Road or MTB pedals are acceptable for "serious" roadies. Road pedals are better for the job, but it's really a personal issue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
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    Whatever fits your cleats... Road shoes are allowed to be embarassingly ugly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    didn't "flip it"???
    Not at all. That's a BF thing. And not-too-serious, IMHO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    Maybe it's because I wasn't in lycra,
    This is the look that makes you appear serious. Right or wrong.

    Drop 'em like a hot rock and they'll take you seriously no matter what you're riding or wearing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave

    Whatever fits your cleats... Road shoes are allowed to be embarassingly ugly.

    Doesn't Siu wear Cons?




    Now, it'd be really cool if she screwed cleats into them...

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    Siu, this happens to me every day with the kind of people you describe and my bike isn't even remotely "acceptable" to them. Heck, I get sneers and snubs from them on the light rail train. (If they're so hard core, what the heck are they doing going over the West Hills with their bike on a train? ) Ignore them. We all know why you got the bike you did - and you really needed it. Wear whatever you want, pedal with whatever pedals you feel like using, be social and friendly with others. Just don't count on them. I'm reasonably sure they're far more miserable human beings for the way they treat others. As long as you're you, you'll never be like that.

    Now that you've put "Moots" on my personal radar screen, I've seen about 5 of them around town here in the last 2 months. Two of them were being ridden by people in blue jeans.

    Quote Originally Posted by randya
    since this post is about bikes, it really shouldn't be in foo. someone should move it to the roadie forum so the OCP crowd there can get all worked up about the foo 'I don't give a ***** about your rare and priceless piece of crap bike' 'tude.
    It's also about human nature. You can remove "Moots", "bikes", "pedals", and "lycra" and insert any other status-oriented widget and its accessories in there. The song remains the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage1
    See, that's what it seems to be at my work, too. I don't understand that attitude. Is it physically painful to be friendly, or what?

    When you notice that a stranger has just said "Hello" to you or has smiled specifically in your direction, you just...look away? What if it's a stranger but you just almost bumped into them coming through a door; do you share a moment of friendly "Oops!" or do you brush past them like they don't exist? How about cashiers or checkout people? Do you acknowledge their chitchat or just ignore them? What about co-workers/team-members--If you walk into a meeting and someone says "Hi" do you respond to them? What if you saw them on the sidewalk somewhere?

    At what point does someone qualify to be acknowledged? I mean, does it go through your brain like, "Do I know that person? No: ignore." Or do they not even register on your consciousness because you're so used to not responding?

    Sincere questions, here. I can't talk to these people in the halls at work to ask them, you get to be a surrogate. (I'm prepared for the fact that your not giving a damn will extend to not answering nosy questions from a stranger on the internet.)

    Maybe I'm just wired differently because I can't even see someone smiling into the camera on a freaking commercial without smiling back.
    You're not comparing like for like. Someone I pass by at work, who can strike up a conversation with me, even if it is just a "hello", is different from a fellow cyclist I see on the road.

    I'm not saying I snub anyone, but I don't bother nodding and smiling at every cyclist I see just because they're on a bicycle. And if someone does visibly greet me I'd feel a bit odd not at least acknowledging them. I'm just happy that most don't.

    I'm actually very friendly and talkative. I'm just making the point that the whole "ooh a fellow cyclist I better wave and smile!" attitude is tired.

    Cycling back home from London yesterday I passed a great number of other cyclists. Not one felt the need to play the meet and greet game, and honestly I'm glad for it. We're just people, like car drivers and pedestrians and all.

    I was especially glad that I was overtaking almost every one. I didn't expect that.
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    Some people are just in a bad moot.

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    Heh. I love the folks driving their convertable old souped up cars, or new ferraris and all, and everytime theyre at a stop light, they check around to see if anyones looking at their car.
    Id like to look at his/hers massive lease on it

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