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Old 07-12-07, 04:14 AM   #1
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Let's All Hate On Algebra

I hear it was the Muslims who invented it. Figures. Discuss.
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I <3 algebra
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Actually, it was invented in India before Islam existed, and the Arabs introduced the concept of 0 to Europe. Now the name Algebra is Arabic in origin from Al Jabr, which means, loosely transliterated: The Art of Transposition and Substitution.
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I <3 Laguerre Polynomials!
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I <3 Laguerre Polynomials!
Which is exactly the reason I started this thread. You people are nutz. You realize they only make you learn this stuff to see how much torture you're willing to take as an employee, they don't really expect you to use this stuff.
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Old 07-12-07, 06:31 AM   #7
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Which is exactly the reason I started this thread. You people are nutz. You realize they only make you learn this stuff to see how much torture you're willing to take as an employee, they don't really expect you to use this stuff.
Actually, I will be using polynomials and do every day, setting up graphs, etc for statistics. Either that or integral calculus if I need to get a specific point on a complex curve! I'm targeting behavioral psychology, going for a PhD, and the field uses a positively amazing amount of math!
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Other uses for Laguerre's:
  1. Topographic mapping
  2. 3 D imaging
  3. Astrophysics
  4. Classical Physics
  5. Quantum Theory
  6. Computation of a gravity well
  7. Ballistics (Computation of bullet drop as it moves downrange or lateral drift caused by a crosswind)
There are many more as well.
I realize that you can do them with a computer, but what happens if you need the answer and don't have technology available? Do you guess?

Anything you learn will eventually be useful to you, and likely when you least expect it!
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Algebra is fun but calculus even more so.
Dif eq not so much. bleh
Calculus based physics was akin to having my teeth pulled without pain killers.
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Algebra is fun but calculus even more so.
Dif eq not so much. bleh
Calculus based physics was akin to having my teeth pulled without pain killers.
I know, neither is really difficult! Actually, none of it is difficult, just know the forms and functions and all the rest takes care of itself.

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I love math. Algebra is fun. Without algebra almost everything we do today would be impossible. It is like saying I hate wheels. And if an 8th grader can do it, so can you.
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I fear X and try to never solve for it.
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I love math. Algebra is fun. Without algebra almost everything we do today would be impossible. It is like saying I hate wheels. And if an 8th grader can do it, so can you.
We have something in common!

Besides bicycling!
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x is not mean. I like x. I hope to ride with x.
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Because x is no square.
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I beg to differ. Taking 18th century literature was a total waste of time. Sociology was nothing more than common sense. Music class was useless throughout high school as we sat and watched musicals. I HATE MUSICALS. I also thought physics was a waste of time. I enjoy math, and I hate to say it, but 99% of Calculus was worthless as well. As biologist I have zero need to figure out how much water a rounded cylinder can hold.

Of course, I find nothing wrong with having to take these classes as you never know what you will need. But to say you will use all of it, just isn't so.
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Besides bicycling!

I am not as bizarre as I seem.
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Linear and Relational Algebra is evil!
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I beg to differ. Taking 18th century literature was a total waste of time. Sociology was nothing more than common sense. Music class was useless throughout high school as we sat and watched musicals. I HATE MUSICALS. I also thought physics was a waste of time. I enjoy math, and I hate to say it, but 99% of Calculus was worthless as well. As biologist I have zero need to figure out how much water a rounded cylinder can hold.

Of course, I find nothing wrong with having to take these classes as you never know what you will need. But to say you will use all of it, just isn't so.
Sometimes the utility is not in the content of what was learned, but in the process of learning how to learn and to assimilate information.
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Algebra is fun but calculus even more so.
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I agree....except I found Diff Eq. fun too. It's just Calc I on steroids. Don't ya just love La Place Transforms?
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True....I hated linear algebra. Not hard....just lots and lots of tedium. Worst math class I've ever taken, tedium made it mostly boring.
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I beg to differ. Taking 18th century literature was a total waste of time. Sociology was nothing more than common sense. Music class was useless throughout high school as we sat and watched musicals. I HATE MUSICALS. I also thought physics was a waste of time. I enjoy math, and I hate to say it, but 99% of Calculus was worthless as well. As biologist I have zero need to figure out how much water a rounded cylinder can hold.

Of course, I find nothing wrong with having to take these classes as you never know what you will need. But to say you will use all of it, just isn't so.
I don't know....that sounds so limiting! I may not directly use every thing I've learned, but in the learning of it, it expands my paradigm. Thinking outside of the box is a good thing and much of what you learn in humanity classes, for example, isn't direct knowledge, but instead, a route to direct knowledge....using your thinking and analytical thinking abilities to their maximum potential.

I bet I can think of a potential need to determine the volume of a cylinder with rounded ends for a biologist as well: What is the volume of an individual Bacillus? How about what is the volume of the Bone Marrow in a Femur? There are two instances where that particular use of math would be appropriate.
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I agree....except I found Diff Eq. fun too. It's just Calc I on steroids. Don't ya just love La Place Transforms?
Yes, I do!
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