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Old 07-15-07, 02:16 PM   #1
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Airline carryon restrictions - your thoughts?

I don't know if this is a real question or more of a rant. Anyhoo this is my first time posting in foo. Normally I post in the road and road racing forums.

It used to be that you could take containers with creams or liquids on the plane as long as they fit in a quart-sized ziplock bag and each indivudual container was less than 3 or 4 oz. (I don't recall the exact number).

I was really surprised today that they wouldn't allow sealed containers of yogurt or even bottled water that had not yet been opened. A year or two ago those things were fine. Do they really think these increased restrictions are going to prevent major problems? People who are really intent on doing bad things to a plane are going to find ways to do so in spite of those rules. I ended up having to throw out the yogurt and bottled water. This was really frustrating given the price of such things within the airport terminals. Has anything that bad really happened within the last year or so to justify these additional restrictions?

It kind of reminds of how some warehouses and other places with have a single line of barbed wire running along a top of a tall fenceline to prevent people from getting in. The only thing this does is prevent random silliness from teenagers or petty crooks from just hopping over the fence on a whim. Any hardened criminal with the proper tools could easily bypass something like that....



Meanwhile they let me on the plane even though I had a ton of sliced-up watermelon in my carry-on bag. I could have gone on the plane, crushed that stuff to a pulp and extracted enough water that would have made them throw it out had I had all that water in its own container...
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Old 07-15-07, 02:19 PM   #2
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Well, the problem with carrion is the smell, the bacteria and maggots. I suppose if it's sealed in a zip-lock bag I'd don't see why the airlines should restrict your carrion.
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perhaps you missed the news from a year ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html
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Ah, security theatre. I know I feel much safer knowing that the planes flying over my house don't have any bottled water or more than 3 ounces (times the number of passengers) of shampoo and toothpaste onboard! Whew!

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I'm with Vonnegut. Taking off our shoes is a joke. So is the rest of the BS.
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My rant is people who seem to think that they can take 4 bags as carry-ons--- including what I consider to be luggage-- taking up a full overhead bin.
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Old 07-15-07, 03:08 PM   #7
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perhaps you missed the news from a year ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html
and like a lot of other things they will be onto the next thing to bypass the current
security measures until we are strip-searched and x-rayed before flights and not allowed to take
anything on the plane...
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Old 07-15-07, 03:08 PM   #8
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My rant is people who seem to think that they can take 4 bags as carry-ons--- including what I consider to be luggage-- taking up a full overhead bin.
1st come 1st serve, just show up at the gate sooner.
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My rant is people who seem to think that they can take 4 bags as carry-ons--- including what I consider to be luggage-- taking up a full overhead bin.
oh yeah, those people!!! To that I'll add the guy who I had to sit in front of on one of my recent flights
who had one too many little bottles of liquor and threw up during the flight. gross!!!
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Trick with the water is to empty it then fill it at the water fountain. Do it all the time. Sometimes they examine my flask but that's empty too (how long before I got there is another story of course ).
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I just flew from Amsterdam back to the US, and I actually think the Europeans have it right. (They do this in Paris too.) There's a magnetometer and the xray at EACH borading gate. What a concept! Much shorter lines, and the people working there actually pay attention! And you know what? I didn't have to take my shoes off!!!

What a farce. One guy gets caught trying to light an explosive substance in his shoes, and now we all have to take our shoes off. A couple of guys get caught trying to bring liquid explosives on board and now we're limited to 3.4 (or whatever) ounces of liquid in any one bottle. But duh.... you can have as many of those bottles as you can fit in a 1-quart Ziploc bag. And as many Ziploc bags as you want. One problem that affects me and other contact lens wearers- no solutions come in <4oz bottles except overpriced "introductory packs." I think the feds must be in cahoots with the contact lens solution manufacturers- why not? They seem to be in the business of corporate welfare anyway.

Oh gee. I feel safer. Don't you?
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Get there early, read the restrictions, and do what Air does.

Quit yer b****in' and get over it. It's air travel. It's not supposed to be convenient.

Besides, if you're saving a couple hours to days on travel, what's another 10 minutes in line? Sheesh. My biggest peeve is people who slow down the security lines by not following the restrictions posted before the line even queues up and then think that they're somehow above the rules. Come on. They post those for a reason. Shoes off, laptops out and in their own bin, liquids/gels in 3oz containers and 1 ziploc bag full of containers, etc. It's not that inconvenient, either. If you really want a larger container of liquid, check your baggage. In fact, chances are that if you need more stuff, you'll be checking a bag on anyway.

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Quit yer b****in' and get over it. It's air travel. It's not supposed to be convenient.
Exactly. If you don't have a horrendous headache and the sinking feeling that you just gave X dollars to some ridiculous airline to treat you one step better than beef cattle, then you're not doing it right.
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It's air travel. It's not supposed to be convenient.
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