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Old 08-15-07, 11:06 AM   #1
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Too Much Coffee Man (or, "I think I may die soon")

My relationship with caffeine really started when I was about 15 in the summer before my sophmore year of high school. Some of the events of that summer led me to my handle 'gurana' (purposefully misspelled, btw). At first, my consumption of caffeine was some sort of identity statement. I was generally a wired person before all that, the increased caffeine intake did nothing to really add to this, but being the geek that I was (and still am, really) I found it cool to brag about how many mgs of caffeine I probably had that morning and into the evening. Much like people you hear bragging about how much alcohol they consumed, only more lame.

In my senior year of high school, caffeine became something i needed. I didn't have the feeling that I was perhaps addicted yet, but I was using it more for the real purpose of getting everything done in the course of a normal day as opposed to doing it 'just because'. By the time I got to college, I was well aware of my level of addiction. If I went more than 8 hours without some caffeine, I would get terrible headaches and go through my pseudo-DTs. This, I feel, was the start of my bad sleeping habits that have carried me through to the present. I was averaging, during the week, maybe 4 hours of sleep. Perhaps 5 on the weekends. It never occured to me that I might be doing harm to my body or my general mental state -- it was just life, and I had no qualms about it. At least I wasn't doing speed, right?

Now, as I sit here, in between tasks at work, sipping on my venti red-eye (large coffee with 2 shots of espresso) I realize that I've been consuming less and less caffeine. I realize this because I feel like my heart is about to explode, but before that my eyes may pop out. I'm restless, a little jitterrrrrryyy, and I have a vague sense of anxiety. (If you ever read starship troopers, the opening portion before Ricco is dropped on the Skinny's planet, describes pretty well how I'm feeling.)

If I don't change soon, I think something bad may happen. For instance, I seem to recall having some sort of point to this post, but for the life of me I can't think of it now.... So... who else here thinks that they may be O.D.-ing on caffeine?
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It is not possible. I have been trying to for around 30 years now. If you succeed, let me know how.
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So... who else here thinks that they may be O.D.-ing on caffeine?
I do once in a while, but nothing that a good dose of Jim Beam won't calm.

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My dad was somewhat like you. He eventually was told by a doctor a few years ago that he REALLY needed to cut down because it was harming him. It caused a slew of other problems. It was main cause of his poor sleeping which is cause of many other serious problems.

Try to enjoy the flavor and stop worrying about the caffeine. When it becomes more of a flavor thing then you become more particular and drink less because you don't want to drink it unless its "special".
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My relationship with caffeine really started when I was about 15 in the summer before my sophmore year of high school. Some of the events of that summer led me to my handle 'gurana' (purposefully misspelled, btw). At first, my consumption of caffeine was some sort of identity statement. I was generally a wired person before all that, the increased caffeine intake did nothing to really add to this, but being the geek that I was (and still am, really) I found it cool to brag about how many mgs of caffeine I probably had that morning and into the evening. Much like people you hear bragging about how much alcohol they consumed, only more lame.

In my senior year of high school, caffeine became something i needed. I didn't have the feeling that I was perhaps addicted yet, but I was using it more for the real purpose of getting everything done in the course of a normal day as opposed to doing it 'just because'. By the time I got to college, I was well aware of my level of addiction. If I went more than 8 hours without some caffeine, I would get terrible headaches and go through my pseudo-DTs. This, I feel, was the start of my bad sleeping habits that have carried me through to the present. I was averaging, during the week, maybe 4 hours of sleep. Perhaps 5 on the weekends. It never occured to me that I might be doing harm to my body or my general mental state -- it was just life, and I had no qualms about it. At least I wasn't doing speed, right?
Now, as I sit here, in between tasks at work, sipping on my venti red-eye (large coffee with 2 shots of espresso)I realize that I've been consuming less and less caffeine. I realize this because I feel like my heart is about to explode, but before that my eyes may pop out. I'm restless, a little jitterrrrrryyy, and I have a vague sense of anxiety. (If you ever read starship troopers, the opening portion before Ricco is dropped on the Skinny's planet, describes pretty well how I'm feeling.)

If I don't change soon, I think something bad may happen. For instance, I seem to recall having some sort of point to this post, but for the life of me I can't think of it now.... So... who else here thinks that they may be O.D.-ing on caffeine?


Less and less than what? How many venti red-eyes would you say you (used to) have in a day?
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Caffeine is one of the 4 food groups:
Caffeine, Pizza, Burritos, and Fruit.

Its the only one you can't overdo and gain weight on.
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gurana, drink 2/3 the quantity over a given period for a few days. Yes, you will undoubtedly have headaches. Drink more water. After a week, when you settle out, go to half the original quantity. More headaches. Drink more water. Then drop to two servings a day, say morning and late afternoon. More headaches, but maybe not at that point....

I drank (and ate) an awful lot of coffee these past few years, and I understand that feeling. But you can cut down and allow you body to adjust. If you can take enough time off of work to deal with the headaches and the feeling that your body will turn inside out, you can just stop "cold-turkey," so to speak, allowing yourself just one cup every morning. That would probably be the worst week of your life, like having a week-long migraine on top of a hangover, but doable.
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My dad was somewhat like you. He eventually was told by a doctor a few years ago that he REALLY needed to cut down because it was harming him. It caused a slew of other problems. It was main cause of his poor sleeping which is cause of many other serious problems.

Try to enjoy the flavor and stop worrying about the caffeine. When it becomes more of a flavor thing then you become more particular and drink less because you don't want to drink it unless its "special".
I'm now very particular about my coffee. I have a cuisineart thermal grind'n'brew. Most of the beans I use are purchased in small batches so that they're fresh as possible (If anybody is interested, Peets Coffee is a good choice. I'm also welcome to suggestions.) I like my coffee black (just like my metal ) i've already cut back quite a bit, which I think is why my drink hit me so hard this morning/afternoon.
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I'm now very particular about my coffee. I have a cuisineart thermal grind'n'brew. Most of the beans I use are purchased in small batches so that they're fresh as possible (If anybody is interested, Peets Coffee is a good choice. I'm also welcome to suggestions.) I like my coffee black (just like my metal ) i've already cut back quite a bit, which I think is why my drink hit me so hard this morning/afternoon.
I like Peet's too. Major Dickanson's Blend or Mocha-Java are my faves.


BTW, be very careful with that Cuisinart Grind&Brew. I used to have the same coffee maker. That's the last one I owned before going to just french pressing it all the time. That particular coffee maker is VERY PRONE to wet coffee sediment left on the insides (from where it drops from chute down to gold basket). I found mold growing in mine a number of times before I got rid of it.

It really needs to be cleaned thoroughly and often which is a LOT of work.
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Less and less than what? How many venti red-eyes would you say you (used to) have in a day?
I never really counted. And it wasn't just the coffee. My last two years of college, I was pretty much drinking every high-caffeine 'energy drink' out there. I started to drink diet sodas because I heard that there was more caffeine in them (which I found out later it was actually true, but the difference was probably insignificant). Coffee and iced tea were my secondary beverages of choice. I also started popping 'no-doze' and then later on diet pills that had large amounts of caffeine.
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- used to drink two pots a day when i was writing full time...

- now i'm down to one cup in the morning and sometimes a cup in the p.m. if i don't want a nap...

- interestingly, a combination of coffee and a Snickers™ gives me a wicked migraine... a Snickers™ alone: OK... a coffee alone: OK... but both together and Blammo! (Hersheys chocolate is fine w/coffee though - go figure)
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I like Peet's too. Major Dickanson's Blend or Mocha-Java are my faves.


BTW, be very careful with that Cuisinart Grind&Brew. I used to have the same coffee maker. That's the last one I owned before going to just french pressing it all the time. That particular coffee maker is VERY PRONE to wet coffee sediment left on the insides (from where it drops from chute down to gold basket). I found mold growing in mine a number of times before I got rid of it.

It really needs to be cleaned thoroughly and often which is a LOT of work.
UGH! Yea, I clean mine often, but haven't thought to check for mold. My biggest issue with it is the difficulty in cleaning out the carafe (sp?). It is pretty well bronzed on the inside now; perhaps some baking soda would help.

What coffee maker do you have now?


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gurana, drink 2/3 the quantity over a given period for a few days. Yes, you will undoubtedly have headaches. Drink more water. After a week, when you settle out, go to half the original quantity. More headaches. Drink more water. Then drop to two servings a day, say morning and late afternoon. More headaches, but maybe not at that point....

I drank (and ate) an awful lot of coffee these past few years, and I understand that feeling. But you can cut down and allow you body to adjust. If you can take enough time off of work to deal with the headaches and the feeling that your body will turn inside out, you can just stop "cold-turkey," so to speak, allowing yourself just one cup every morning. That would probably be the worst week of your life, like having a week-long migraine on top of a hangover, but doable.
I'm really not so bad now. I cut back a lot after my wife got pregnant. Coffee is really my only issue now, but I try and keep it reasonable. Today was a little different, as I knew I wasn't going to get to get out of the office more than once, so I opted for one drink with more caffeine (Almost got them to double the espresso )
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Its the only one you can't overdo and gain weight on.

You forgot a major food group there: BEER!

However, you can overdo and gain weight from that one.
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I'm now very particular about my coffee. I have a cuisineart thermal grind'n'brew. Most of the beans I use are purchased in small batches so that they're fresh as possible (If anybody is interested, Peets Coffee is a good choice. I'm also welcome to suggestions.) I like my coffee black (just like my metal ) i've already cut back quite a bit, which I think is why my drink hit me so hard this morning/afternoon.
Coffee appreciation thread...
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some interesting coffee caffine facts;


Starbucks Coffee

Tall (12oz) = 195 mg of caffeine
Grande (16 oz) = 260 mg
Venti (20 oz) = 325 mg
Espresso Shot (1 0z) = 65 mg



that venti alone has a lot of kick in it.

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Let's see, I'm on my eighth cup for today. I'll have probably four more before bed.

There was only one time that I really did think I would die from caffeine. I was a sophomore in high school and would try just about any kind of illegal or legal drug, if I thought I could catch a buzz off of it. One of my buds told me that something around 1600mg of caffeine has the same effect as a black molly. As we hung out at the local arcade, (yes, before the days of PlayStation), I started knocking back No Doze and Dexitrim capsules. I think I only got to about 1300mg when my stomach really started hurting. I rode my skateboard home, stopping several times to attempt to vomit, but only had dry-heaves. I got home, gulped down a half-bottle of Pepto-Bismal and dozed on my bed listening to the blood swishing in my ears. I had some weird in-out-in-out-of-conscious experiences and was pretty sure my ticker was going to trow a rod. I was relieved when I awoke, the next day.
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You forgot a major food group there: BEER!

However, you can overdo and gain weight from that one.
what about the Butterfinger group?
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I remember reading someplace that it takes an obscenely large amount of coffee consumed over a very short time to kill yourself.. Something like 46 cups over 20 mins or something like that so I dont think you are at risk..

Compensate for your coffee by doing some other activity, like riding more(your choice as to what you ride ).. FWIW I can go cold turkey to 3 cups a day and vice versa without any problems at all.. I usually dont drink any coffee on the weekends either..
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To paraphrase Twain:

It's easy to give up coffee. I've done it hundreds of times.
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To set the record straight:

http://www.energyfiend.com/death-by-caffeine/

http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database/
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Thank god I can't afford that much espresso!

How did they ever find volunteers for that study?
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