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Old 08-19-07, 10:07 AM   #1
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Anybody else hate moochers?

Whether it be the hobo who wants crack money "so he can pay bus fare to get home", the guy at work who borrows money since he always wastes his, or anybody else who mooches, I get sick of it. Anybody else hate it when people needlessly mooch?
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So much hate! All I am saying is give peace and love a chance. Love thy neighbor, seems like we need a bit more of that these days.
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When I was in Utah I told my friend I would get him food or anything he needed because I didn't want him living off of microwave dinners all the time. His face had sunken in, and he was really skinny when we got their. Once I told him this, completely took advantage. I must have boughten him at least 4-5 times fast food while we were there. At least if it had been healthy food, but it was just crappy fast food, and he get's the most expensive thing on the menu. This is not including the pot I bought him, and other food we gave him. For some reason I couldn't say no. One of my weaknesses is if I have money, when it comes to friends I can't help it. If they ask I'll usually never say no.
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I hate moochers. I had a nice apt. when I was 20 or so and my brother and I shared expenses. He had a friend named Frank and he would mooch a ride home from work w/ my brother, then mooch our food and beer. Mooch a spot on the couch for the night, then mooch a ride back to work w/ my brother the next day. He was even spreading word around that he had sexual relations w/ MY girlfriend. [Mooching envy] To this day I despise a mooch.
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So much hate! All I am saying is give peace and love a chance. Love thy neighbor, seems like we need a bit more of that these days.

Yeah? How much moochin' can a mooch mooch?
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I had two male room mates and one of them had a girlfriend who "stayed" to visit. That woman never moved out. Her furnitured started to appear in our house. She even had a key and was getting phone messages on my phone! One day I answered and the person was questioning who I was and why was I answering Brenda's phone!!

Oh but when it came to splitting up the bills, it was always done in thirds but not fourths. That bothered me. We told her boyfriend Bill about it and he said that she doesn't use much.
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Money is just one form of social currency. I've known people who were moochers on paper, but made my life much better.

So often it seems those with the most money to share are the least likely to share it. I suppose that's how they got their stash in the first place. In the workplace, I've never quite understood why the big money bosses are so cheap--they could literally buy good will on the cheap by paying out of pocket for little nice-ities cut by the bean-counters. Instead its the lowlevel staffers who pass the envelopes and help each other out in hard times.

I know someone who is almost too poor for food, but shares everything she's got. She has one expensive habit, roll-your-own cigs, but gives most of them away.
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That lady friend of yours is an angel, Krink.

What bothers me as well are people who are healthy and capable of finding/holding a job or going to school to get educated but refuse to. Their excuse can range from laziness to the classic reasoning of "Why should I when everyone does things for me??" These are the ones who whine because they have no money "I'd like something like that but I really can't afford it - perhaps if everyone chips in?" and yet gets so many things given to them. And they can't just settle for the basics. They want the best of the best. For free. From other people. They claim to be unable to afford things but somehow can get expensive things on everyone elses donations.

Taking advantage of other's generosity without so much as a thank you is really very selfish.
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Yeah, I think my friend is an angel, or at least a saint. Which makes people want to protect her and give her things. Interesting how that works.

But, I suppose when you've got not much, it's not hard to set limits.
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There are people who may not have money, but help in other ways, like what Krink stated. I don't consider those moochers.

The ones I can't stand are the ones who want to sponge from you, and treat you like dirt, almost expecting you to be their teat, until you give up and call the police to have them chucked out as a trespasser. Thankfully, I've not had this happen personally, but I've seen friends of mine fall into this trap. They just have their good will used and abused, and will just move to another victim once the current one wises up.
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For some reason, I have never had a moocher try to use me as a victim. I am sure there is a simple reason (like I might turn them into a slave until they repay the debt...).

I have been in some very hard places in my life at times and always appreciated when someone helped me out. There is a big difference between that and someone who isn't trying to get back up on their feet, but just want you to carry them.
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I had two male room mates and one of them had a girlfriend who "stayed" to visit. That woman never moved out. Her furnitured started to appear in our house. She even had a key and was getting phone messages on my phone! One day I answered and the person was questioning who I was and why was I answering Brenda's phone!!

Oh but when it came to splitting up the bills, it was always done in thirds but not fourths. That bothered me. We told her boyfriend Bill about it and he said that she doesn't use much.
I had the EXACT experience in college!!

I had two (male) roomates, and the one guy found this really snotty girlfriend. She started coming over more and more often. First on weekends, then more and more during the week, until pretty soon his closet was full of her stuff. He and she were doing laundry constantly, doubling our electricity, and yet she NEVER paid a cent of rent. Then she starts setting "rules" about what *I* can do in my own apartment -- like, I can't walk around without a shirt.

It got so bad that one day I come home from class, and she asks, "What are YOU doing here?" I replied, "I LIVE HERE. What are YOU doing here!?!?"

To make matters worse, they were both spoiled rich kids (the roomate and his girlfriend). Rich parents, expensive cars, but yet she didn't pay a dime for rent. It was sickening.
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^^^ Poor guy.
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That lady friend of yours is an angel, Krink.

What bothers me as well are people who are healthy and capable of finding/holding a job or going to school to get educated but refuse to. Their excuse can range from laziness to the classic reasoning of "Why should I when everyone does things for me??" These are the ones who whine because they have no money "I'd like something like that but I really can't afford it - perhaps if everyone chips in?" and yet gets so many things given to them. And they can't just settle for the basics. They want the best of the best. For free. From other people. They claim to be unable to afford things but somehow can get expensive things on everyone elses donations.

Taking advantage of other's generosity without so much as a thank you is really very selfish.
Reminds me of the same friend I was talking about before. We asked him to come to paintball, and of course he had no money. I went over to the group and asked if everyone wanted to chip in to help him go. Of course we all would, it was my dopey idea to begin with. Not knowing it was 100 dollars a person, plus 50 dollars a case for paintballs. We ended up buying some 5-6 cases of paintballs, I think it totalled almost 900$ for the whole group. That was almost 200$ for me to do that. Which was money I had earned and had planned on using for the roadie.

For me money is like an ebb and flow, when I have it, I'm always willing to be generous. But I always end up broke again. Which is fine. I appreciate my mtb so much because I spent 4 months saving for it, and I know at the end of the day, I paid for everything on it. Someone in the mtb forum made some pompous comment about how Mattp must be lucky to have lots of money to throw around, and I told him that whether he has plenty of money or not, HE earned everything on his bike. Same thing for the roadie, except only like half of that was earned money by me, the rest was savings.

Some people have no issue with borrowing money and not repaying it, but I personally hate borrowing money from friends. I feel obligated to pay it back immediately. Personal example, it's always appreciated when someone offers me something for free that I could use. When someone I knew yesterday offered me a bike rack and her bike, I asked her if could at least pay her something for it(the rack is a saris trunk mount rack, pretty expensive), and she insistently said no. I'm going to at least give her 30$ for the rack, the bike doesn't fit her, so she wanted to get rid of it. I think there is a balance, give and get. If you're willing to receive, also be willing to give aswell. Me? I sent someone on BF a brand new derailler, and I even offered VV my 4300 frame if she promised to ride it.

I think the problem is when, someone only asks, and never gives, that's when someone becomes a mooch. Especially when they do it with no conscious and think they are entitled to something. I don't think I've ever met anyone like that though.

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Money is just one form of social currency. I've known people who were moochers on paper, but made my life much better.

So often it seems those with the most money to share are the least likely to share it. I suppose that's how they got their stash in the first place. In the workplace, I've never quite understood why the big money bosses are so cheap--they could literally buy good will on the cheap by paying out of pocket for little nice-ities cut by the bean-counters. Instead its the lowlevel staffers who pass the envelopes and help each other out in hard times.

I know someone who is almost too poor for food, but shares everything she's got. She has one expensive habit, roll-your-own cigs, but gives most of them away.
+1. I know people like that, too. There are some gifts that cannot be measured in material terms. However, I suspect these aren't the sort of people Mich refers to.
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Betty Boop can live off me anytime.

Last night a beggar asked me for change and I ignored him. He'd just spend the money on booze. Then I went into the store and bought a six pack for me and my friends.
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Betty Boop can live off me anytime.

Last night a beggar asked me for change and I ignored him. He'd just spend the money on booze. Then I went into the store and bought a six pack for me and my friends.
We leave our bottles out for the bums and they dont go through our trash or bug us when they see us. Its not the greatest system, but it works.
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A dose of real generosity will render any and all moocher's completely defenseless. He/she will tire quickly of being genuinely motivated and leave to find fresh unsuspecting victims elsewhere.


They are attracted by guilt and convienience. Eliminate these qualities from your bieng and you may never have to defend yourself from a moocher.
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I spent 6 months living on the streets. I was never a spanger. I was never a leech. I dumpstered everything I needed (yes, that includes food*) and didn't mooch off anyone.
I have serious issues with spangers and moochers. If a guy with no legal residency papers and minimal english language skills can stand in a hardware store parking lot and get a job for the week, then there's nothing stopping the guy walking up and down the street at Pike's Market hassling people for change from doing the same thing.

* Plenty of markets are required by store policy to throw away perfectly good food just because it's the end of the day. Places like Whole Foods, Wild Oats, Panera Bread, and even the Kroger family of supermarkets toss out food that is still wrapped and sealed, just like you'd find it on the shelf. You just need to know when to hit up the tip so you get the good stuff.
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