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    By the way, WTF is it with celeberties?

    I'm sure most of you heard about Owen Wilson the other day, maybe i even missed a post.

    For those of you that don't know:

    The incident on Sunday afternoon that landed actor Owen Wilson in the hospital was called in to police as a suicide attempt, according to Santa Monica Police Department phone logs.

    According to the records, a call was received at 12:08 p.m. on Saturday for an incident listed as "attempt suicide." Wilson remains in stable condition at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Beverly Hills, California, according to spokeswoman Cynthia Harding (see "Owen Wilson 'In Good Condition,' Hospital Says").

    "Extra" reports that Wilson's brother Luke found him at his home on Sunday. Since being admitted to the hospital, Wilson reportedly has been visited by other family members, including his brother Andrew. Samuel L. Jackson was also seen at the hospital, though it has not been confirmed that he was visiting Wilson.

    Wilson's publicist has offered no further comment since issuing the following statement on her client's behalf Monday: "I respectfully ask that the media allow me to receive care and heal in private during this difficult time."

    Meanwhile, rumors continue to run wild over what provoked the incident. The New York Post cited a recent "vicious quarrel" with a close friend and his reported breakup with "You, Me and Dupree" co-star Kate Hudson as potential reasons however, nothing has been substantiated.

    The fate of two of Wilson's upcoming high-profile films remains to be seen. Slated for release next month is the Wes Anderson-directed "The Darjeeling Limited," in which Wilson co-stars with Jason Schwartzman and Adrien Brody. Wilson was scheduled to attend the film's debut at the Venice Film Festival next week; Fox Searchlight has not responded to inquiries about any change in plans for the launch of the film.

    In addition, Wilson co-stars with friend Ben Stiller in next summer's "Tropic Thunder," a film that has recently been shooting in Hawaii. According to Variety, Wilson was due to begin shooting his starring role in the film in the coming weeks.

    Just last week, he signed on to star opposite Jennifer Aniston in the film version of the bestseller "Marley and Me."
    Right, ok...

    I don't know Owen Wilson, i don't pretend to, but there is something about acting that really gives you some insight into the person. There is also something to be said about public appearances and just how one presents them self to the public.

    Owen Wilson seemed to be a pretty straight shooter, his roles are typically acted by the same charicter which leads me to believe that "that person" is probably a lot like Owen Wilson. "That person" seemed to be a pretty fun, dorky, confident dude.

    Now again, i don't know Owen Wilson personally...it is possible he is just an amazing actor and is nothing like "that person". But what the ****?

    I've seen a lot of drug addiction within my own family and the one thing that scares me is the depression that often goes along with that. That depression is typically related to various life issues, lack of money or success etc. In fact, i'd go so far as to say that in many cases i have seen the depression is the driving force behind the drug addiction.

    What the hell is the problem with these celebrities though? What is driving their depression and drug addictions? I really try hard to understand, but it escapes me.

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    depression is real in many people. Owen Wilson, assuming he suffers from depression, just happens to be somewhat famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
    I don't know Owen Wilson, i don't pretend to, but there is something about acting that really gives you some insight into the person.
    LOL....where in the world do you get that? That's still pretty immature thinking.

    Watching them act gives you NOTHING in terms of insight into the real person.
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    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    This is fantastic - I have no clue who these people are. My withdrawl from popular culture is complete!
    "Real wars of words are harder to win. They require thought, insight, precision, articulation, knowledge, and experience. They require the humility to admit when you are wrong. They recognize that the dialectic is not about making us look at you, but about us all looking together for the truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb View Post
    This is fantastic - I have no clue who these people are. My withdrawl from popular culture is complete!
    That's supreb. I hope to be there one day. I do remember the day I "floored" my family asking who the hell Britney Spears was when they were blurbing all about her on my bro's TV (was at his house).
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb View Post
    This is fantastic - I have no clue who these people are. My withdrawl from popular culture is complete!
    You are to be admired in your cultural ignorance! I've sacrificed the daily newspaper (and I'm a former news JUNKIE) to have time to read literature for my grad courses. It's amazing how quickly one can forget the comings and goings of celebrities and the like when you stop paying attention to the "news." Such worthless and vapid crap in the "news" and on television! You could be talking to REAL people or reading mind-bending art instead of following such popular drivel! Hell, you could be reading FOO instead ...

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    sometimes people need help... even egocentric, overpaid, underworked, whiny celebrity pretenders. as sad as they can be at times.

    BUT if they were all to dry up and blow away, I'd be the first to throw a party. hell, i'd even buy the beer.

    their stunt doubles could hang out and drink with me though. i bet they're fun at parties!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb View Post
    This is fantastic - I have no clue who these people are. My withdrawl from popular culture is complete!

    Not really...you still read the BF's, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andronicus View Post
    You are to be admired in your cultural ignorance! I've sacrificed the daily newspaper (and I'm a former news JUNKIE) to have time to read literature for my grad courses. It's amazing how quickly one can forget the comings and goings of celebrities and the like when you stop paying attention to the "news." Such worthless and vapid crap in the "news" and on television! You could be talking to REAL people or reading mind-bending art instead of following such popular drivel! Hell, you could be reading FOO instead ...
    I'm not so sure it is a great thing to be unaware of pop culture. Not that there is a lot of virtue in it, but if you don't know what is going on in pop culture, chances are you are missing a lot of other things that are going on in the culture as well.

    Personally I think current events is one of the most important aspects of daily life. Burying one's head in the sand does little to improve anything.

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    wow....




    Its called acting for a reason.

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    celebs? zzZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portis View Post
    I'm not so sure it is a great thing to be unaware of pop culture. Not that there is a lot of virtue in it, but if you don't know what is going on in pop culture, chances are you are missing a lot of other things that are going on in the culture as well.

    Personally I think current events is one of the most important aspects of daily life. Burying one's head in the sand does little to improve anything.
    Current events are one thing. What rehab Lindsey or Paris is going to next is another ... and I don't care!

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    I suspected this would happen.

    -Drew barrymore, does not surprise me that she has...issues
    -Lindsey Lohan, does not surprise me that she is a snobby little brat
    -Tom Cruise, well...he kinda turned the corner pretty quick
    -Johnny Depp, you ever seen him interviewed? He's a bit odd, does that surprise you?
    -Tom Hanks, funny guy, pretty smart. Surprised?
    -Nick Cage, again, his "real life" personality does not surprise me
    -You ever see Paris Hilton act? Yeah, she really is that dumb
    -Halie Barry, intelligent sexy and articulate
    -Where you all shocked at the OD of Chris Farley? Yeah, me either

    Most actors are not as good at acting as people give them credit for, they are often just extensions of them self on screen, odd people with interestingly odd characters to portray. I work in theater, i see my share of "actors". And, lastly, i think you guys kind of missed the point. I'm not saying that Tom Hanks is Forest Gump, what i am saying is that based on his various roles, i think i can get a handle on some very basic aspects of his personality.

    Why do you think most actors are stuck in the same role movie to movie?

    Again though, that's not really central to my main question...i'm just surprised to see Owen Wilson go down this path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
    ...what i am saying is that based on his various roles, i think i can get a handle on some very basic aspects of his personality.

    Why do you think most actors are stuck in the same role movie to movie?

    Again though, that's not really central to my main question...i'm just surprised to see Owen Wilson go down this path.


    If you are surprised then you never really had a handle on anything...


    Depression and suicide deserve more than just plattitudes. The people involved and affected deserve more than just a mention in Foo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Depression and suicide deserve more than just plattitudes. The people involved and affected deserve more than just a mention in Foo.


    Just sayin'.
    I realize this, but clinical depression usually manifests itself well before his current age unless some drastic event in life has taken place. And that is my question, what the hell is so wrong with these people that they are constantly becoming instable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
    I realize this, but clinical depression usually manifests itself well before his current age unless some drastic event in life has taken place. And that is my question, what the hell is so wrong with these people that they are constantly becoming instable.


    They are not "becoming unstable".


    Mental health issues can't be summed up in one post.


    The pressures of maintaining the limelight would push a "normal" "sane" person over the edge...


    1 in 5 people wth depression commit suicide.


    Most go their whole lives unnoticed.

    The part of the brain that acceses creativity? You guessed it...same area that lights up with schizoid and manic depressive (and autistic, and ADD, etc...) conditions.

    Actors, artists, and musicians have a higher rate of depression than, let's say bankers. Actors have the highest frequency topped off by comedians...the most recorded manic-depressive cycles come from comics (they have to attain great heights every night).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Most go their whole lives unnoticed.
    Partially because nobody else really cares until they see it on Extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explody pup View Post
    Partially because nobody else really cares until they see it on Extra.


    Know what?

    I care. That used to be my problem, but I'm learning how to make it the solution.
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    The part of the brain that acceses creativity? You guessed it...same area that lights up with schizoid and manic depressive (and autistic, and ADD, etc...) conditions.
    News to me. Isn't that kind of the answer to my question? That wasn't hard was it?

    You may want to stop insinuating that i don't understand depression, lets just say i know plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
    News to me. Isn't that kind of the answer to my question? That wasn't hard was it?

    You may want to stop insinuating that i don't understand depression, lets just say i know plenty.

    Don't misread what I say. I can be difficult at times, but it's not on purpose I assure you.

    I am 100% confident that we are brothers from another mother that just have a hard time understanding one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Know what?

    I care. That used to be my problem, but I'm learning how to make it the solution.
    Good point. I should have said it seems nobody cares. When you're in that cloud, it's easy to get yourself to believe all sorts of crazy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explody pup View Post
    Good point. I should have said it seems nobody cares. When you're in that cloud, it's easy to get yourself to believe all sorts of crazy things.

    That cloud can sure get awfully warm and comfortable, huh?

    That precisely why I had to get out from under it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    That cloud can sure get awfully warm and comfortable, huh?

    That precisely why I had to get out from under it.
    The illusion of warmth and comfort, yes. Also offers predictability. Which is often also turns out to be an illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by explody pup View Post
    Partially because nobody else really cares until they see it on Extra.
    Not so. It's because so many people suffering from depression do not look, sound, act or seem particularly "depressed" to others. Depression does not always manifest itself in never-ending, outwardly visible melancholia. Many depression sufferers can be the proverbial "life of the party" - Abraham Lincoln comes to mind. For these folks, only in private or with those closest to them do they allow the inner pain to come out. Not all depression sufferes are like this, either, but many are.

    And celebrities have an additional problem that most depression sufferers don't have. While the average Joe or Jane can go unnoticed, the average pop culture celeb has a small army of staff and hangers-on who have a vested interest in actively hiding any signs of depression or other emotional or mental problems - from the public and especially from the celeb him- or herself. That can make it even harder for them to face reality, and it can make the fall that much harder, not to mention more public.

    And for the unknown and the world-famous alike, drinking, drugs, and other high-risk behavior is often a form of self-medication. Not every starlet du jour does blow or screws everything in sight as some subconscious treatment for depression - but a fair number do. Same is true for a fair number of lawyers, mail carriers, flight attendants, trash collectors, architects . . . . It cuts across all socio-economic, ethnic, gender, ageand sexual orientation boundaries.

    Think about that the next time you go in for surgery.
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    Well I don't know.

    Mind you, if I had just broken up with Kate Hudson I would probably be depressed too. Then again, given my age, perhaps I would have been more depressed about breaking up with her mother?
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