Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-29-07, 09:53 AM   #1
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Computer upgrade time, or "Why I think I'll stick with bike upgrades instead"

So a funny thing happens any time my good friend and coworker Ryan decides that he's going to upgrade his computer... it instantly makes me think that it's time to upgrade mine. This has been a trandition since our early years in college when he'd buy the top of the line gear, I'd wait 2 months and buy the next newest cheaper than he bought his stuff for. And around and around we would go.

Fast-forward a few years and I've realized that the last performance upgrade I made on my machine was over 3 years ago, and that was an already couple year old model video card! This realization comes of course, right as Ryan tells me he's upgrading to new gear. So back to my old stomping grounds of HardOCP.com and other tech-minded geek websites I went to read up on all I had missed since leaving the upper-end of computer hardware for cycling several years ago.

Wow have things changed. I knew that dual-core AMD's were out, I knew PCI-E had taken over the realm of video cards, and DDR now had numbers after it. Well, I know it in passing, but not in detail of what all was out there. And let me tell you, it's mind boggling!

So now I'm in the position of either:

A) Spending just enough to get a very solid and worth while upgrade from my current system (specs to be listed below), but have to worry about not having too much head-room for future performance needs.

B) Splurging on a few things while keeping the budget reasonable and sane. Still far surpassing what I'm running on now, which has finally started to show its age on a few new computer games I have.

C) Go all out, drain what extra funds I have laying around and then some and build a rock solid performing machine that will likely not need any additional upgrades for another couple of years.

Current machine specs (for those other geeks out there):

AMD XP 2600+ (Barton Core) OC'ed @ 2.0Ghz (2800+ speed)
1 GIG DDR 3200 (512 x2)
ATI 9800 Pro 128mb
EPoX EP-8RDA+ nForce2 Ultra 400
120GB WD HDD & 250GB WD HDD
DVD-RW & CD-RW
420W Antec PSU
Creative Audigy 2 Audio

Current Plans(ish) for the Upgrade:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (Brisbane Core)
2 GIG DDR2 6400 (1GIG x2)
nVidia 6800GT or GTS or 8800GTS 320mb (price $100 - $300!)
nVidia nForce 570 or 590 board??
etc.
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:03 AM   #2
wolfbrother
hiphopopotamus
 
wolfbrother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: milwaukee, wi
Bikes:
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
D) Buy an Apple. Use it happily for years to come without worrying about upgrading.
wolfbrother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:04 AM   #3
FrankBattle 
SilentRider
 
FrankBattle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Bikes: Giant TCR 2 Composite, Pedal Force RS (Dura-Ace), Pedal Force CG1 (SRAM Force), Badger Cycles custom steel road, Pedal Force RS2 (SRAM Red)
Posts: 2,380
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuda2k View Post
Wow have things changed. I knew that dual-core AMD's were out, <snip> it's mind boggling!

<snip>

solid performing machine that will likely not need any additional upgrades for another couple of years.

Current machine specs (for those other geeks out there):

AMD XP 2600+ (Barton Core) OC'ed @ 2.0Ghz (2800+ speed)
1 GIG DDR 3200 (512 x2)
ATI 9800 Pro 128mb
EPoX EP-8RDA+ nForce2 Ultra 400
120GB WD HDD & 250GB WD HDD
DVD-RW & CD-RW
420W Antec PSU
Creative Audigy 2 Audio

Current Plans(ish) for the Upgrade:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (Brisbane Core)
2 GIG DDR2 6400 (1GIG x2)
nVidia 6800GT or GTS or 8800GTS 320mb (price $100 - $300!)
nVidia nForce 570 or 590 board??
etc.
So, you know the quad cores have been announced ..

For what I use mine for, and keeping in mind I have (had, sort of) 866 MHz machines with maxed out RAMs of half a gig each, a simple Dual Core Gateway with 2 Gigs of RAM was just fine when I finally got tired of having to reload XP (too much porn surfing, I think). I just upgraded a few weeks ago .. the best part for me was the 19" LCD screen and I got a huge HDD to add to the one I already have.

But I run PhotoShop & Illustrator .. and I surf Foo and other such BS sites. That's it. I don't do video beyond watching the torrents I steal (borrow, really).
FrankBattle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:04 AM   #4
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Doesn't Campagnolo make computer parts?
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:10 AM   #5
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
Posts: 3,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
Doesn't Campagnolo make computer parts?
No, you are thinking of Cateye, not Campagnolo.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:19 AM   #6
banerjek
Portland Fred
 
banerjek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes: Custom Winter, Challenge Seiran SL, Fuji Team Pro, Cattrike Road/Velokit, РOS hybrid
Posts: 11,214
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
The question at the end of the day is what the various upgrades will really do for you. Boosting RAM, processor speed, etc only really helps if you're already pretty much fully utilizing those resources and IO bottlenecks such as your HD aren't what's holding you back (as is the case with most people).

I'd stick to bike upgrades. Much more satisfying.
banerjek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:29 AM   #7
lyeinyoureye
Senior Citizen
 
lyeinyoureye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: no
Bikes: yes
Posts: 1,347
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Whoa! That's an early upgrade! I generally cycle my hardware in decade cycles, and only upgrade if I absolutely have to... How much you want for the 9800?
lyeinyoureye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 10:39 AM   #8
Psydotek
Body By Nintendo
 
Psydotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Videogames ruined my life. Good thing i have 2 extra lives.
Bikes: Giant TCR2, Giant TCX, IRO BFSSFG SE, Salsa Casseroll, IRO Rob Roy.
Posts: 3,187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I just bought the parts for a new computer this week. It's been 5 years since my last build.

Old:
AMD Athlon XP2000+
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
1 gig of ram
80 gig HD

New:
AMD Athlon X2 6000+
GeForce 8800GTS x2 (yes, i'm going with SLI)
2 gigs of ram
nForce 570 motherboard
500 gig HD
Windows Vista

I was going to do this earlier in the year but triathlons and training were getting in the way. I've had the $$$ for it since January but finally got around to buying the stuff this month. Everything should be here by friday so i can build it over the weekend.

Old computer will be relegated to general websurfing and crunching data for Climate Prediction, Folding@home, and/or Einstein@home along with playing older games that won't work with Vista.

For upgrading your videocard, if you game at all, don't go with anything less than a 8800GTS card. $300 has kinda been the sweetspot for videocards. Anything less than an 8800GTS will just make you wish for an upgrade in afew years.

And yes, i too have realized that building a bicycle is alot easier.

Edit: I'll probably end up picking up another monitor (for dual screen Supreme Commander goodness) just for chits and giggles. Another 2 gigs of ram will also end up in my computer by the end of the year hopefully. Then i'll be set for another 5 years.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.

Last edited by Psydotek; 08-29-07 at 10:49 AM.
Psydotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:18 AM   #9
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
wolfbrother - I am programmer. Thus I use a PC.

FrankBattle - yeah, I know quad is around the corner. I could wait, but I'm not going to be buying a quad any time soon at the prices they'll want for them. Even if they are half of what Intel's quad cores are priced at.

KingTermite - think I should put a "Powered by Campagnolo" decal on the case? Hell, I still have my "Thunderbird" case sticker on that case to tell you how long I've been using it! Still one of the best though (if not a tad heavy!)

banerjek - I am planning on picking up a 250GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s hard drive for my primary drive. A 400GB ATA133 drive is still for data though. It's brand new, unused spare so I'd best get some use out of it I suppose. I do a fair bit of processor / RAM intensive programming along with HDD intensive database stuff.

lyeinyoureye - , if I went back another page or two in my Newegg purchase history I'm sure I'd see many 2-3 month upgrade cycles. Though I usually managed to sell the current gear for what was the current going price and upgrade for very little additional cost. This was back when processors were going from 550 to 800mhz to 1.0 to 1.2 to 1.4Ghz and beyond in a short time span. As far as the 9800 goes, it'll probably go along with the rest of the parts I'm taking out into a seperate case and be sold complete. Doubt parting it out would get me much more for the additional work involved.

Psydotek - Very very nice system you got yourself there. A pair of 8800's in SLI has to be some sort of sweet. I've read that currently there isn't much of a performance hit going down to 8x PCI-E on the 570 SLI boards when running the dual cards over the dual 16x on the 590's. Any thoughts on this? I could save myself about $50 by going with a nforce 570 board and not sure how far down the road I'd even consider SLI (esp if I go with an 8800 of any flavor). Which board did you buy and how has your experience with it been?

My friend got his new machine up and running today and tested out Bioshock on it this morning. His is running the 4000+ chip on an older nForce4 board and a 8600GT vid card. This is pretty much what my plan A would encompass. Of course I'd have to do something a *little* better.

Last edited by cuda2k; 08-29-07 at 11:25 AM.
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:25 AM   #10
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Wow, everyone but Jsharr gets a personal reply. I think you should get a Commodore 64.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:29 AM   #11
SonataInFSharp
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Bikes:
Posts: 176
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you need something newer to do whatever you need to do, then upgrade. If you don't need something newer, then don't upgrade.

Or is that too simple?
SonataInFSharp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:40 AM   #12
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
jsharr - sorry mate, guess I should have said jsharr / KT as you were the one who first suggested the Campy parts.

SonataInFSharp - of course that's too simple! Fact of the matter is that I'm going to be going in for a second round of surgery soon which is going to keep me off the bike for 3-4 weeks and would like to have a boolstered up system to play some games on while I'm healing up. There's only so much laying on the couch I can handle. Mind goes numb after a while, esp with the pain meds in me.
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:40 AM   #13
Psydotek
Body By Nintendo
 
Psydotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Videogames ruined my life. Good thing i have 2 extra lives.
Bikes: Giant TCR2, Giant TCX, IRO BFSSFG SE, Salsa Casseroll, IRO Rob Roy.
Posts: 3,187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I went with a Gigabyte motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128014

I was a big fan of Soyo motherboards in the past but they don't make them for the new CPUs... I was going to switch to EPoX boards since they've had a good reputation but they were sold out on newegg. So Gigabyte was my next choice. I hope it wasn't a mistake going with the 570 chipset instead of the 590 (about $70-80 more but with the total cost so far, $80 is pretty negligible) since i already made a mistake of ordering the 8600 videocards and returned them yesterday and went with the 8800GTS instead.

I just hate doing motherboard swaps, they're the most PITA thing to upgrade on a computer since everything else is hooked up to it. As long as the mobo lasts 5 years i'll be good.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.
Psydotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:57 AM   #14
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Psydotek - I'm a big fan of Gigabyte boards as well, and have run Soyos in the past (that's a name I haven't heard in a while) and of course I'm running Epox right now. My coworker's new board is the Gigabyte nForce4 SLI board and seems to be running things very nicely thus far. Just hard to buy a previous gen chipset when the current gen has been out for what a year now?

I hear you with Mobo upgrades, I've waited long enough that I've now skipped a complete socket type (939?) and AGP has gone the way of the Dodo along with standard DDR. $80 isn't much when you're buying a pair of 8800GTS's, but when that could be a new 250GB HDD or most of the price of a new PSU it means a fair bit. All this started with a price after rebates of like $350 for the upgrade. At the high end I'm looking north of double that. How quickly it adds up!
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 12:17 PM   #15
Psydotek
Body By Nintendo
 
Psydotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Videogames ruined my life. Good thing i have 2 extra lives.
Bikes: Giant TCR2, Giant TCX, IRO BFSSFG SE, Salsa Casseroll, IRO Rob Roy.
Posts: 3,187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Adds up waaaay too fast. Even more than bicycles. But i usually don't get the upgrade bug every 6 months. At the most it'll be more ram and a second HD. I also do the "if it breaks, upgrade" thing. On my old computer i went through 3 DVD drives and 1 power supply which isn't too bad.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.
Psydotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 12:36 PM   #16
catatonic
Chairman of the Bored
 
catatonic's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Bikes: 2004 Raleigh Talus, 2001 Motobecane Vent Noir (Custom build for heavy riders)
Posts: 5,825
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yeah, keeping up with all the RAM changes in the past year is quite significant.

It's not any new specs that came out, just that the average user now has the information resources to learn how to wring that last bit of power out of their systems. Gone are the days you buy three DDR levels higher "just in case X cpu comes out".....because now sockets change just as fast....so buy the best ram you can.

I'd go with a nvidia 7900 or an 8800 myself....a 6xxx series is bottom bucket for many of today's games, if you are gaming (only reason I see for dropping coin on a mid to high end 3d accelerator and not on a Fire or Quadro).

when in doubt, just hit up sharkyextreme and look at his build guides...he has a few different price points he goes from, and the builds are pretty solid.
catatonic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 03:14 PM   #17
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Ok, plan C it is!

Build Specs planned are as follows:

Antec 1040 case (Current Part)
Antec TruePower 650W Power Supply (SLI certified)
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570 SLI MCP motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane (2.1Ghz) - easily OC'ed to 2.5Ghz on stock cooling
OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 (PC6400)
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 320mb
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital 400GB 7200RPM ATA133 (Current Part)
DVD-RW Drive (Current Part)
CD-RW Drive (Current Part)

Selling: Old Laptop, Old Computer Parts, plus a little extra. Should come out with a machine I shouldn't need to touch for another 2-3 years.
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 03:40 PM   #18
UmneyDurak
RacingBear
 
UmneyDurak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Bikes:
Posts: 8,608
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Just curious why AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane? Intels Core2 Duo outperform it easily.
UmneyDurak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 04:50 PM   #19
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
$65 vs $120+? I can OC the 4000+ from 2.1 to 2.8Ghz for a chip performing at well over double its cost.

AMD 4000+ @ 2.1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103774 ($65.99)

Intel C2D @ 2.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115014 ($125.99)

The Intel OC's quite well, but so does the AMD, and for half the cost. For the difference in cost I can pick up a SATA hard drive. I've been an AMD guy for desktops since the Athlon 1.0 Ghz days and before. At the high end Intel is killing AMD, but at the middle of the performance line-up the cost to performance ratio still puts a new AMD in my machine. (As I type on my Intel Centrino Duo laptop)
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 11:48 PM   #20
iamlucky13
Footballus vita est
 
iamlucky13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Bikes: Trek 4500, Kona Dawg
Posts: 2,118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuda2k View Post
Ok, plan C it is!

Build Specs planned are as follows:

Antec 1040 case (Current Part)
Antec TruePower 650W Power Supply (SLI certified)
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570 SLI MCP motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane (2.1Ghz) - easily OC'ed to 2.5Ghz on stock cooling
OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 (PC6400)
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 320mb
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital 400GB 7200RPM ATA133 (Current Part)
DVD-RW Drive (Current Part)
CD-RW Drive (Current Part)

Selling: Old Laptop, Old Computer Parts, plus a little extra. Should come out with a machine I shouldn't need to touch for another 2-3 years.
That's a beefy power supply. Good call on the Western Digitals. These drives are solid. I spend the extra $10 went I got mine to get the RE's. Performance is the same, but they're supposed to be even more reliable, plus they run cooler and quieter because of their better motors and bearings. Your graphics card scares me.

I'm guessing with all this gear you do a little gaming? Get a wide screen. It's nice.
__________________
"The internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. You need to take advantage of that." ~ Strong Bad
iamlucky13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 12:25 AM   #21
BCgoFHS
I like pie!
 
BCgoFHS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SoCal baby!
Bikes:
Posts: 64
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuda2k View Post
$65 vs $120+? I can OC the 4000+ from 2.1 to 2.8Ghz for a chip performing at well over double its cost.

AMD 4000+ @ 2.1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103774 ($65.99)

Intel C2D @ 2.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115014 ($125.99)

The Intel OC's quite well, but so does the AMD, and for half the cost. For the difference in cost I can pick up a SATA hard drive. I've been an AMD guy for desktops since the Athlon 1.0 Ghz days and before. At the high end Intel is killing AMD, but at the middle of the performance line-up the cost to performance ratio still puts a new AMD in my machine. (As I type on my Intel Centrino Duo laptop)
I don't think you will get the same performance even with overclock. Personally if I was building a bang for the buck system I would have gotten E6600 and overclocked it get same performance as Extreme. *shrug
BCgoFHS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 03:19 AM   #22
Zinn-X
proud of his bunny
 
Zinn-X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: UCSC
Bikes: 2006 Masi Gran Corsa Premio custom build: Full 105, Easton EC70 fork, Easton Circuit Wheelset // 2007 Specialized Stumpjumper (stock for now)
Posts: 885
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
the great [VON] Cuda?? It ... can't be? Sorry I'm a [H]-goer too

BTW don't get the crappy Nforce board. Get a 965P chipset if you want cheap. You can get an abit AB9 QuadGT for $120 now and it's a damn solid board. DO IT.

oh wait... you're going AMD. I thought they were out of business? Sorry I need to go to bed.
Zinn-X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 06:05 AM   #23
cuda2k
Unique Vintage Steel
Thread Starter
 
cuda2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Allen, TX
Bikes: Kirk Frameworks JKS-C, Serotta Nova, Gazelle AB-Frame, Fuji Team Issue, Schwinn Crosscut, All-City Space Horse
Posts: 11,486
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Zinn, sorry, not the same. I'm cuda2k over there as well. Haven't haunted the forums in a long while. AMD is far from dead. Down, but certainly not out. I haven't bought anything yet... and if you want to donate to the "get cuda2k on an Intel chip fund" you can paypal me your donations.
cuda2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 06:57 AM   #24
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa
Posts: 6,157
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
you can have all the change in my console next time we see each other cuda.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Quote:
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 08:28 AM   #25
Psydotek
Body By Nintendo
 
Psydotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Videogames ruined my life. Good thing i have 2 extra lives.
Bikes: Giant TCR2, Giant TCX, IRO BFSSFG SE, Salsa Casseroll, IRO Rob Roy.
Posts: 3,187
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuda2k View Post
Ok, plan C it is!

Build Specs planned are as follows:

Antec 1040 case (Current Part)
Antec TruePower 650W Power Supply (SLI certified)
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570 SLI MCP motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane (2.1Ghz) - easily OC'ed to 2.5Ghz on stock cooling
OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 (PC6400)
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 320mb
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital 400GB 7200RPM ATA133 (Current Part)
DVD-RW Drive (Current Part)
CD-RW Drive (Current Part)

Selling: Old Laptop, Old Computer Parts, plus a little extra. Should come out with a machine I shouldn't need to touch for another 2-3 years.
Same videocard(s) that i just bought. Which version did you get though, the regular or overclocked card? I ended up going with the factory overclocked one (with 575mhz? instead of 500mhz) since it was only $10 more. For my power supply i picked up a PC Power & Cooling 750w PSU. Then 2 gigs of Crucial DDR2 800, and a Creative Labs Xi-Fi soundcard (i was never a big fan of onboard mobo sound).

Now i'm just hoping i didnt f*** anything up last night while i was assembling afew things... I put in the PSU/drives/mobo just to get things started and noticied some of the capacitors on the motherboard next to the CPU socket were bent a bit (probably from shipping since the manual and cables do sit on top in the box). So i reached down and gave one a little nudge away from the CPU socket and heard a little pop. ****! I checked the bottom of the board and the soldered joint looks fine but i dunno... While i've got all the know-how and can build a computer in my sleep, i ALWAYS have the worst luck no matter how careful i am. The bad thing is i have to wait until tomorrow to see if it's going to work or not (i can't do it today because the remainder of the parts get delivered today and i'm not going to be home which means i've gotta run to UPS to pick them up in the evening and won't have time after that).

I've had to deal with a scratched motherboard and my share of DOA parts and it's never fun having to run back to the store or do an RMA when you're anxiously awaiting the completion of the computer.

Dammit, i'm rambling again... (a sign that i'm stressing out over my computer build)
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.
Psydotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:52 AM.