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Old 08-31-07, 01:04 PM   #1
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Poor cager - only gets help from cyclist...

Yesterday I went to the supermarket on my trike, and on the way in, I see a young guy pushing his toyota corolla up the entrance ramp and he runs out of steam and the car starts to roll backwards so I yell to him to hit the brakes and I'll help him push it the rest of the way..

Not one of the other cagers even gave him a second look when he obviously needed help.....

So I prop the trike up into the grass and go to the back of the car and help him push it 300 feet to the nearest parking spot.

I looked over his engine and it had a nasty knocking sound and would shut off after 10 seconds no matter how much throttle I gave it...

OOPS =( Seems like the motor is a gonner !!

I went inside and bought him a bottle of water and he thanked me profusely as I rode home with a 24 case of bud light and a 20lb bag of ice and a box of cereal.


He thanked me profusely.
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Old 08-31-07, 01:48 PM   #2
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Yesterday I went to the supermarket on my trike, and on the way in, I see a young guy pushing his toyota corolla up the entrance ramp and he runs out of steam and the car starts to roll backwards so I yell to him to hit the brakes and I'll help him push it the rest of the way..

Not one of the other cagers even gave him a second look when he obviously needed help.....

So I prop the trike up into the grass and go to the back of the car and help him push it 300 feet to the nearest parking spot.

I looked over his engine and it had a nasty knocking sound and would shut off after 10 seconds no matter how much throttle I gave it...

OOPS =( Seems like the motor is a gonner !!

I went inside and bought him a bottle of water and he thanked me profusely as I rode home with a 24 case of bud light and a 20lb bag of ice and a box of cereal.


He thanked me profusely.
You did a good deed, good for you, but the real message here is that trolling for praise or feeling smug about performing a good deed while others did not, is not praiseworthy.
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Old 08-31-07, 02:04 PM   #3
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Opposite to the "Yelling Driver" thread, most of my verbal interaction with drivers is asking for directions. When you drive up between the cars at stoplights you are more accessible to a lost driver than the other car drivers. They might also think that you are a local if you are on a bike. Sometimes the passenger will hang out the window with a mapquest printout or an address on a piece of paper. I love it when I can honestly say "Gee, I know how to get there by bike but I'm not sure the best way to drive there." The multi- use paths around here don't always follow the roads and sometimes allow us to bypass one way street issues.
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Old 08-31-07, 02:46 PM   #4
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...So I prop the trike up into the grass and go to the back of the car and help him push it 300 feet to the nearest parking spot...
Yes, it seems to me that non-motorists are often in the best position to provide assistance to motorists in trouble. I think it's inconvenient for other motorists to stop and help. The isolation of being in a fast moving vehicle contributes to non-involvement. On the other hand, people who are on the scene on foot or on a bike feel more involved with what's going on around them.
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Old 08-31-07, 03:14 PM   #5
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I once, no kidding, while unlocking my bike at a grocery store bike rack, had a guy come up to me and ask if I had any jumper cables. He was running around frantically asking everyone in the area. Maybe he didn't notice I was crouched next to my bike with a helmet on.

Anyway I pointed him to an AutoZone that was just across the street (but out of view). So in some ways he made the right decision asking anyone in the area. I would have been too wise to be so smart.

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Old 08-31-07, 03:27 PM   #6
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I once, no kidding, while unlocking my bike at a grocery store bike rack, had a guy come up to me and ask if I had any jumper cables.
Well, car dependent neighbors have come to me asking for jumper cables. Everyone knows I don't have a car. They must have been desperate. Funny thing is, I loan them my nice jumper cables. I retained some junk from the car when I sold it seven or so years ago. After several loans and mechanical assists, word has gotten around that I have tools and some minor mechanical ability.
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AutoZone or any of those franchise repair shops are ripoffs. This is why you see so many motorists delaying repairs because the car is CONSTANTLY requiring maintenance! I've spent thousands repairing cars over the years and it just gets more and more expensive. My brother is constantly sending his car to be repaired and any new noise upsets him to no end.

This poor guy is broke because he chooses the most costly method of transportation. He has money to spend but the car takes it all away.
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AutoZone or any of those franchise repair shops are ripoffs. This is why you see so many motorists delaying repairs because the car is CONSTANTLY requiring maintenance! I've spent thousands repairing cars over the years and it just gets more and more expensive. My brother is constantly sending his car to be repaired and any new noise upsets him to no end.

This poor guy is broke because he chooses the most costly method of transportation. He has money to spend but the car takes it all away.
That is why I am without a car. I hate being broke. Along with it being a real pain to get back and forth to the car repair shops which are in the NEW part of town which is very hazardous to cyclists.
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You did a good deed, good for you, but the real message here is that trolling for praise or feeling smug about performing a good deed while others did not, is not praiseworthy.

I think you're being way too harsh. I think he set a good example and I don't mind hearing about it.

Feeling good about helping others and sharing it is nothing to condemn. Cut him some slack. We all have egos.
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AutoZone or any of those franchise repair shops are ripoffs. This is why you see so many motorists delaying repairs because the car is CONSTANTLY requiring maintenance! I've spent thousands repairing cars over the years and it just gets more and more expensive. My brother is constantly sending his car to be repaired and any new noise upsets him to no end.

This poor guy is broke because he chooses the most costly method of transportation. He has money to spend but the car takes it all away.
When I need a repair done to my car, it almost always costs me around $500, so that's what I now expect to pay. My car is 15 years old so it's at the point where more and more things are about to go wrong. Going car-light, I don't use my car as much so the repairs are not nearly as frequent. That means I've got more money available for more important things.
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Old 09-01-07, 09:17 PM   #11
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You did a good deed, good for you, but the real message here is that trolling for praise or feeling smug about performing a good deed while others did not, is not praiseworthy.

ILTB, do ever get sick of being a pontificating arse?
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Must you refer to all motorists as "cagers"?
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He bikes in South Florida and hasn't been killed yet. He gets to call them whatever he wants.
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Old 09-02-07, 06:16 PM   #14
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He bikes in South Florida and hasn't been killed yet. He gets to call them whatever he wants.
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You did a good deed, good for you, but the real message here is that trolling for praise or feeling smug about performing a good deed while others did not, is not praiseworthy.
The real message here is that you missed the point of the original post.
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Wow, a reject from Carfree or A&S?

I'm with Brian on the "cager" thing. God, that's obnoxious.
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You did a good deed, good for you, but the real message here is that trolling for praise or feeling smug about performing a good deed while others did not, is not praiseworthy.
Someone needs to check the definition of a "troll." And, hey, if you don't like what someone says, you don't have to comment. Unless you just can't help yourself.

Welcome to Foo, BTW, where we welcome the thoughts and experiences of others, and just let folks vent, or otherwise talk about how they've made an effort to make a good impression on non-cyclists, on behalf of us all. Or, wow, just talk about anything off-topic.

I hope you'll lurk a bit. We're really quite fun here, and don't bite. Well, some do, but not in the way you think.

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Speaking of which, here I am.

And OP I think you did well and buying him water was a plus.
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+1000

Enna-one haf a problem wid dat, PM me.
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You talk funny.
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You should hear me in my native Suth'un.
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I've been wondering exactly what the origin of the term "cager" is... And "enna-one." Do you mean "ennywun" VV?
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I would love to but I would have to get my wifes permission.
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AutoZone or any of those franchise repair shops are ripoffs. This is why you see so many motorists delaying repairs because the car is CONSTANTLY requiring maintenance! I've spent thousands repairing cars over the years and it just gets more and more expensive. My brother is constantly sending his car to be repaired and any new noise upsets him to no end.

This poor guy is broke because he chooses the most costly method of transportation. He has money to spend but the car takes it all away.
Um, Autozone sells parts for DIY as well. Don't buy junk cars, and you won't spend a ton on maintenance. And putting off routine maintenance is false economy. A well maintained internal combustion engine consumes less fuel and puts out fewer emissions. And tire pressure is just as critical on a car as a bicycle, saving up to 10% in fuel costs, not to mention tire wear. I neglected my motorcycle's rear tire for two months, sending it to an early retirement. That was a $270 (+$70 labor) lesson I would have preferred not to learn.

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I've been wondering exactly what the origin of the term "cager" is...
I think it was used first by motorcyclists, and cyclists co-opted it.
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I've been wondering exactly what the origin of the term "cager" is... And "enna-one." Do you mean "ennywun" VV?
Yeah, when I'm not tryin' to speak like the "Sopranos." (just my imagination, as I don't have cable, and have never watched that show).

I once saw a definition on BF of "cager," courtesy of WikiPedia, if you actually believe that WP is 100% accurate.

FA, there is a Foo thread of "What Do You Sound Like?" or some such. I didn't yet contribute, but probably will at some point soon. You surely won't need #1's permission to listen to that.
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