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Old 09-04-07, 11:58 AM   #1
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Work just upgraded my PC

Excellent. 2GB ram.
DVD RW, which the tech said they left the software for it installed.

haha Time to burn DVD's while I work.
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Old 09-04-07, 12:00 PM   #2
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Dude you're gettin' a Dell
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Should have atleast gotten a mac...

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I'll take the mac monitor but keep the worthless cpu, mouse and keyboard
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My work PC which i am now, has 2 G of RAM and I can't tell that it is any faster than my Dell at home with 512 MB.
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RAM doesn't mean a thing by itself.

What about the rest of the rig?
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We just got word today that they are making changes to standard work computers in a few weeks and we are getting a LOT of our user rights taken away. We will no longer be admins on our own machines.

Good thing is that our group NEEDS admin privs and will likely be able to petition it, but it sucks overall.
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a) no pc in any of my businesses have dvdr period. Excluding 2 execs who own the company
b) no user has admin rights over anything. Excluding specific pieces of software they may need admin access
c) I can't believe any other company does it any other way
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2 gigs? 8 gigs here.
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a) no pc in any of my businesses have dvdr period. Excluding 2 execs who own the company
b) no user has admin rights over anything. Excluding specific pieces of software they may need admin access
c) I can't believe any other company does it any other way
That model is fine if your company is nothing but "businessy" where people use nothing but MS OFFice and the same standard apps.

But the company I work for is about 75% engineers and almost every single department uses a number of software apps that are not "company standard apps" so they are not supported by IT. My group, as software developers, almost regularly need to do things which require admin privileges to do normal software development.

I wouldn't have a problem if our company was all secretaries and business folks who used nothing but Office apps, but we aren't. That isn't even the majority, I suspect.
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That model is fine if your company is nothing but "businessy" where people use nothing but MS OFFice and the same standard apps.

But the company I work for is about 75% engineers and almost every single department uses a number of software apps that are not "company standard apps" so they are not supported by IT. My group, as software developers, almost regularly need to do things which require admin privileges to do normal software development.

I wouldn't have a problem if our company was all secretaries and business folks who used nothing but Office apps, but we aren't. That isn't even the majority, I suspect.
Fair enough, but is the IT department forced to support your pc when it blows up? Is the expectation standard for restoration of hardware and software?

Just curious, in the right industry I would consider that model, but the expectation of full recovery would have to be removed. Users with local admin rights do more damage to their computers than any other use possible.
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Fair enough, but is the IT department forced to support your pc when it blows up? Is the expectation standard for restoration of hardware and software?

Just curious, in the right industry I would consider that model, but the expectation of full recovery would have to be removed. Users with local admin rights do more damage to their computers than any other use possible.
Not really a full restoration. If it comes down to a restore being the only solution, then they will only restore standard load and user data files, we would have to reinstall/configure non-standard software ourselves (which is perfectly reasonable).
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Not really a full restoration. If it comes down to a restore being the only solution, then they will only restore standard load and user data files, we would have to reinstall/configure non-standard software ourselves (which is perfectly reasonable).
ok, that makes pefect sense then.
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I'll take the mac monitor but keep the worthless cpu, mouse and keyboard
Uhhh thats not the Mac monitor. That's the whole computer (its inside the monitor ) note the slot on the right side of the monitor where the CD goes in...

p.s. The CPU is the Core2Duo used in most High end PCs...

heres what a standard apple LCD Display looks like

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Old 09-04-07, 04:39 PM   #15
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In a lot of industries, having to lock down everything (no admin rights for anyone but the Windows admins, no DVD writers) are done by law... good ol' Sarbanes-Oxley means that if corporate data gets leaked and SEC regulators show that due diligence wasn't followed... someone is going to prison.

It all varies by company. What works well for one company may hamstring another company.

Probably the best way, with a medium sized company, is to segment networks. Have each division have their own Active Directory subdomain (where each subdomain trusts the main one, but allow subdomains grant/deny access as they see fit... for example Joe in Accounting isn't going to be allowed share access to the source code tree in Dev). Physical networking too should be separate, with solid routers separating them all. Engineers, development, QA, and the other technical divisions have full control over their segment, finance has all the boxes in their segment locked down where the only thing the machines there, can talk to would be a terminal server, AD server, and a WSUS box, IT has its stuff partitioned, and so on. This satisfies SOX and other requirements without strangling the freedom needed to write stuff.

As for the latest iMacs... I really wish Apple used a better chipset for 3D graphics. The current one is a tad underpowered.

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a) no pc in any of my businesses have dvdr period. Excluding 2 execs who own the company
b) no user has admin rights over anything. Excluding specific pieces of software they may need admin access
c) I can't believe any other company does it any other way
windows without admin rights? half the software where I work requires admin rights just to run. and it's a large company.

as for the dvdr .. you don't need admin rights to plug in a flash drive.
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2 gigs? 8 gigs here.
Your desktop has 8 gigs of memory and 8 CPU's? What kind of software does that run?
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Your desktop has 8 gigs of memory and 8 CPU's? What kind of software does that run?
Not 8 CPUs, more like 8 cores...

I'm guessing Two quad-core Intel Xeon X5365 processors...
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What kind of software does that run?
Oh and to answer your question:

http://www.apple.com/macpro/

notice how you can configure it up to 3 Terabytes of storage and 16 gigs?...
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Oh and to answer your question:

http://www.apple.com/macpro/

notice how you can configure it up to 3 Terabytes of storage and 16 gigs?...
AND 2 8-core processors.
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My high end rig is a Quad-Core.
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A K6?
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2.33 core2duo...
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