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Old 09-04-07, 06:59 PM   #1
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Careful, nail guns are dangerous...

Wouldn't ya know...

I volunteered to help my brother-in-law frame out his soon-to-be-renovated/enlarged upstairs bathroom after I learned he'd injured his hand when his right hand made contact with a circular saw he was using to enlarge his roof opening (he's adding a dormer) after the ladder he was standing on moved suddenly. Fortunately, he's okay. He'll have the scars and maybe some loss of motion/feeling, but all five digits are still there.

After working the past five weekend days in the heat stripping shingles, working out compound angles and cutting sheets of plywood, it happened. I was trying to attach the last stud of a soffit frame to the ridge beam and, after climbing up into the rafters (about 20' up in the air), decided it would be just a little too much trouble to move into the correct position to shot the framing nail (the stud had a slight twist and was off position by ~1/2"). Needless to say, I was tired, hot and impatient to finish. So I reached up with both hands, aiming the gun at the stud (and facing slightly back at myself...you can see where this is going, can't you?), pushed the stud into position and pulled the trigger.

Sure enough, the action of the air piston caused the tip of the nail gun to shift slightly and before I could blink an eye, the nail gun fired a brand new 16d framing nail about 1" into my left forearm. Oddly, it didn't hurt much. I looked down, realized what a stupid f'n decision I'd just made and pulled the nail out. I then moved into the correct position (due to a sudden shot of motivation), shot the nail using the right technique the second time and climbed down.

Fortunately for me, the nail missed my artery and any/all bones and bled only a small amount on removal. I had my niece bandage me up and asked me wife call my doctor. He indicated I didn't need to visit the clinic for a tetanus shot as I'd had one in the last 10 years. A day later and there's no real pain, no swelling, no nasty black & blue mark. I consider myself a very lucky man. So, for all those who work with power tools of any kind....take your time and be careful, the life/limb you save may be your own.
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you realize of course that this thread is useless without pictures.
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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you realize of course that this thread is useless without pictures.
True, but in this case the thread wouldn't really benefit from a picture...the wound is a small 1/16" dark red circle, smaller than some of my moles.
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improvise, embellish and outright lie. works for me.
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Old 09-04-07, 07:12 PM   #5
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improvise, embellish and outright lie. works for me.

+1 Another form of that is called the 5% truth rule. Only 5% of the story has to be true. The rest of the story can be subject to artistic license. Did the nail pass through the wood or is that one weak nail gun?
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Old 09-04-07, 07:17 PM   #6
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In my experience, simply stepping on a nail can cause days of pain and some trouble walking. The time it happened to me I dipped into my vike stash. Never had a nail through the arm myself. Think I'd probably prefer the foot again.

Certainly it could have been worse. Glad to hear you're okay.
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Kay, this is why Dean Johnson gives all of those warnings at the beginning and ending of Home time
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Home time is only a slight improvement over Bob Vila. That is, it's essentialy watching paint dry while getting a lecture on **** a 4 year old could easily equate in his own head having had no construction experience.
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As the victim of a table saw accident, I should have skipped this. And I mean this as a cold shiver, sweat producing, flight reaction.
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As the victim of a table saw accident, I should have skipped this. And I mean this as a cold shiver, sweat producing, flight reaction.
As someone considering a project which would have the workpiece travel parallel to the axis of a table saw blade (without safety devices), I shouldn't have read that.

Glad it worked out, OP.
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improvise, embellish and outright lie. works for me.
I believe this is a Foo "law".
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nail guns don't kill people. nails kill people.
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no **** homes.. glad it didnt impale you on a more sensitive spot.
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Recipe for Disaster

Take one home improvement project.
Stir in several days of heat and unexpected problems.
Add ladder or scaffolding. (A single, unsecured board slung between 55 gallon drums is particularly effective. Even more effective is the raised bucket of a skip loader - been there, done that.)
Remove all safety googles, work gloves, hard hats, hair restraint (if applicable).
Apply to one overheated, tired, "I'm ready for a beer" guy.
Stir in testosterone to taste.
Disengage common sense.
Add power tools.

No other baking, stirring, cooking, thinking or anything required. With this fool-proof recipe, you'll soon have your very own Disaster on your hands, as if by magic.

Oh, and while the recipe doesn't require it, people seem most often come upon just the right mix of ingredients late Saturday afternoon, just in time to get caught up in the Saturday evening rush at the local emergency room. At least that's been my experience.
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My dad shot a framing nail into the fleshy part of his hand below the thumb once after the board unexpectedly rotated/moved on him. The cause of this movement was his brother on the other end of the board. Unfortuntely for my father this particular nail was not only the type with a screw style end making it more difficult to remove, but was also coated with something that caused a rather nasty reaction a few days later. Glad your nail gun incident didn't end up as bad, but certainly keep an eye on the spot and keep it clean!
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Recipe for Disaster

Take one home improvement project.
Stir in several days of heat and unexpected problems.
Add ladder or scaffolding. (A single, unsecured board slung between 55 gallon drums is particularly effective. Even more effective is the raised bucket of a skip loader - been there, done that.)
Remove all safety googles, work gloves, hard hats, hair restraint (if applicable).
Apply to one overheated, tired, "I'm ready for a beer" guy.
Stir in testosterone to taste.
Disengage common sense.
Add power tools.

No other baking, stirring, cooking, thinking or anything required. With this fool-proof recipe, you'll soon have your very own Disaster on your hands, as if by magic.

Oh, and while the recipe doesn't require it, people seem most often come upon just the right mix of ingredients late Saturday afternoon, just in time to get caught up in the Saturday evening rush at the local emergency room. At least that's been my experience.
I gotta go watch Money Pit after reading this.
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Old 09-05-07, 08:16 AM   #17
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Yick.

Ex-husband had 150 lb metal (don't ask me what he was doing with it) slab smash down on his hand - and he called me out to help.

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he lost a couple fingers ...

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Wouldn't ya know...

I volunteered to help my brother-in-law frame out his soon-to-be-renovated/enlarged upstairs bathroom after I learned he'd injured his hand when his right hand made contact with a circular saw he was using to enlarge his roof opening (he's adding a dormer) after the ladder he was standing on moved suddenly. Fortunately, he's okay. He'll have the scars and maybe some loss of motion/feeling, but all five digits are still there.

After working the past five weekend days in the heat stripping shingles, working out compound angles and cutting sheets of plywood, it happened. I was trying to attach the last stud of a soffit frame to the ridge beam and, after climbing up into the rafters (about 20' up in the air), decided it would be just a little too much trouble to move into the correct position to shot the framing nail (the stud had a slight twist and was off position by ~1/2"). Needless to say, I was tired, hot and impatient to finish. So I reached up with both hands, aiming the gun at the stud (and facing slightly back at myself...you can see where this is going, can't you?), pushed the stud into position and pulled the trigger.

Sure enough, the action of the air piston caused the tip of the nail gun to shift slightly and before I could blink an eye, the nail gun fired a brand new 16d framing nail about 1" into my left forearm. Oddly, it didn't hurt much. I looked down, realized what a stupid f'n decision I'd just made and pulled the nail out. I then moved into the correct position (due to a sudden shot of motivation), shot the nail using the right technique the second time and climbed down.

Fortunately for me, the nail missed my artery and any/all bones and bled only a small amount on removal. I had my niece bandage me up and asked me wife call my doctor. He indicated I didn't need to visit the clinic for a tetanus shot as I'd had one in the last 10 years. A day later and there's no real pain, no swelling, no nasty black & blue mark. I consider myself a very lucky man. So, for all those who work with power tools of any kind....take your time and be careful, the life/limb you save may be your own.
A shame y'all lived this would have been hella good Darwin material!
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Fixed it for you.
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