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Old 09-09-07, 11:10 AM   #26
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Old 09-09-07, 11:54 AM   #27
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You should've just stopped talking right there. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. MSconfig is not the place to run to for a novice user.

Every statement in the above quote is utterly false.

Blind, leading the blind. Do us a favour, get a computer engineering degree and come back and write something useful .
I absolutely beg to differ. I have a real engineering degree from a Top-10 engineering school and 10 years of experience (computer engineering is an aspect of computer science, not an actual branch of engineering). I am also very involved with cutting edge computer technologies. It is absolutely true that what slows down most systems is that there are too many processes running in the background. The computer takes longer to start up, and these unnecessary programs (which are loaded into RAM) consume unnecessary processor bandwidth. Also, by bogging down your RAM, the computer responds more slowly because the operations being performed by your computer require RAM for breathing space. The RAM is the bottleneck. You can upgrade RAM too, but I would start by leaning-up your system first as I have described above.

I also disagree that msconfig is dangerous for novices. Regedit is, but not msconfig. All of those little checkboxes are reversible.
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Old 09-09-07, 12:45 PM   #28
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Reload? Try uninstall.

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Reload windows on your computer. I have a linux.
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I find the Linux elitism kind of sickening. If the guy wants Linux, I'm pretty sure he's capable of making the choice himself, but it sounds like he wants Windows...

I question people's ability to provide effective tech support if an issue as simple as this is resolved by dumping an entirely new OS onto the machine...



Not sure if it was mentioned, I'd also do a disk cleanup (the program and you personally getting rid of any programs or files you don't need), and a disk defrag (15% hard drive space needed), it should help improve loading times.


If your machine is CRAWLING slow, you may have damaged OS files, and a reinstall should fix that while keeping current settings and all intact. (Sometimes the removal of spyware/viruses can cause this unexpected result of an extremely slow system).


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Not only is it reversible, but anything non-Microsoft in the startup sequence is 99.9% usually not required for standard use of the operating system. They can uncheck all day long and worse that will happen is their anti-virus wont boot up, which they can easily go back and fix.

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Old 09-09-07, 05:05 PM   #30
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Have you tried putting a racing stripe down the side?

Edit: Curses! It appears, after reading the thread, that this idea has already been voiced
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Old 09-09-07, 05:42 PM   #31
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I find the Linux elitism kind of sickening. If the guy wants Linux, I'm pretty sure he's capable of making the choice himself, but it sounds like he wants Windows...
original message "My laptop takes a long time (I think anyway) to start up. I know nothing about computers, is there anything I can delete etc to make it faster?"

The message was not My windows is running slow, you assumed it was windows which seems elitist.

Ubuntu is free and easy to install. I have an older sony laptop and after years of frustration with windows I went to dual boot which was a pain. After an HD replacement I went to full Linux Ubuntu install. It was considerably easier than most of the other suggestions offered in the serious responses and free. It's nice to have a stable platform that runs faster that the windows it replaced. The only thing I miss from the old install is itunes. no more crtl alt delete
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Old 09-09-07, 06:09 PM   #32
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Have you tried putting a racing stripe down the side?

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proof that it works... I've got racing stripes on my macbook gotta get up earlier in the day mate, earlier in the day
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Awesome answers everybody, I tried the msconfig thing and I have unchecked a few things that google said weren't necessary to run. It seems to help.
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original message "My laptop takes a long time (I think anyway) to start up. I know nothing about computers, is there anything I can delete etc to make it faster?"

The message was not My windows is running slow, you assumed it was windows which seems elitist.

Ubuntu is free and easy to install. I have an older sony laptop and after years of frustration with windows I went to dual boot which was a pain. After an HD replacement I went to full Linux Ubuntu install. It was considerably easier than most of the other suggestions offered in the serious responses and free. It's nice to have a stable platform that runs faster that the windows it replaced. The only thing I miss from the old install is itunes. no more crtl alt delete

I'm running Windows XP. Maybe I should have mentioned this, but like I said, I know nothing of computers.
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I'm running Windows XP. Maybe I should have mentioned this, but like I said, I know nothing of computers.
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I find the Linux elitism kind of sickening. If the guy wants Linux, I'm pretty sure he's capable of making the choice himself, but it sounds like he wants Windows...
If your machine is CRAWLING slow, you may have damaged OS files, and a reinstall should fix that while keeping current settings and all intact. (Sometimes the removal of spyware/viruses can cause this unexpected result of an extremely slow system).
People aren't capable of making the choice themselves, which is why they come to forums to ask others. Most people aren't capable of taking even basic precautions to keep their windows box safe because they don't know anything is wrong, let alone what is going wrong (like their system slowing as it sends their credit card # and social security # to Russia). I can't believe how many people end up paying Best Buy $75 to basically run webroot or, if they are a little more with it, pay $30 for webroot itself for a year. The elitism you're detecting is a poor way of saying, "Hey pal, I've been down that road too and it's ultimately counterproductive."

Eventually the malware, problems with the registry, etc etc, catches up with windows no matter what you do to secure it. To keep windows XP running I end up performing a clean install every six months to a year. It's a pain in the butt. If that's what it takes to run windows, is it really so ridiculous and/or insulting to tell someone (albeit undiplomatically) to give an easy-to use linux distribution like ubunutu a try?
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I run mainly DOS. Any software I need I program in BASIC on my Commodore PET. It's pretty trick -- the green monochrome CRT is really sharp, and I have the deluxe 32K model, not the old-school 16k one. I like Linux too, but Charlie Brown and Snoopy are my favorite.
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original message "My laptop takes a long time (I think anyway) to start up. I know nothing about computers, is there anything I can delete etc to make it faster?"

The message was not My windows is running slow, you assumed it was windows which seems elitist.

Ubuntu is free and easy to install. I have an older sony laptop and after years of frustration with windows I went to dual boot which was a pain. After an HD replacement I went to full Linux Ubuntu install. It was considerably easier than most of the other suggestions offered in the serious responses and free. It's nice to have a stable platform that runs faster that the windows it replaced. The only thing I miss from the old install is itunes. no more crtl alt delete
Assuming that someone uses an OS 95% of the world uses is just statistical guessing. =/ Not to mention you don't tell someone thats running a Linux machine to replace it with Linux, leaving us with like a 3% probability I'm wrong. Even then telling someone to replace OSX with Linux kind of takes away from owning an Apple (in some ways), so even if I am wrong, it's a horrible suggestion.

Look up "elitist" before calling someone it. BTW: I use Linux too. Woop de do.


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People aren't capable of making the choice themselves, which is why they come to forums to ask others. Most people aren't capable of taking even basic precautions to keep their windows box safe because they don't know anything is wrong, let alone what is going wrong (like their system slowing as it sends their credit card # and social security # to Russia). I can't believe how many people end up paying Best Buy $75 to basically run webroot or, if they are a little more with it, pay $30 for webroot itself for a year. The elitism you're detecting is a poor way of saying, "Hey pal, I've been down that road too and it's ultimately counterproductive."

Eventually the malware, problems with the registry, etc etc, catches up with windows no matter what you do to secure it. To keep windows XP running I end up performing a clean install every six months to a year. It's a pain in the butt. If that's what it takes to run windows, is it really so ridiculous and/or insulting to tell someone (albeit undiplomatically) to give an easy-to use linux distribution like ubunutu a try?
I run clean installs every time I change major hardware, other than that I have zero problems with needing reinstalls. We've also run Windows XP at work 24/7 for years on one of our MySQL servers, no issues there. It depends on how you use it and how well you know how to maintain Windows.

I have no problem with people suggesting Ubuntu or any other Linux build, if thats what the user is interested in, the first question is "Are you willing to change your OS?" Not "Windoze is a PoS get Linux lolol". I myself will recommend Linux to people who are interested, and if someone is educated enough to look up software from MSConfig and remove it properly, I bet he's educated enough to look up Ubuntu and see if he wants to use it/ask questions about it....


Again, we come back to the simple point:
A solution to a problem is almost NEVER replacing the operating system of a computer. Alas a lot of people think thats the only solution. It's like replacing the engine of a car because the spark plugs aren't igniting. (lols computer == car analogy)


Bottom line:
People weren't suggesting, they were intimidating and being mostly useless to this guy's problem, it gives the Linux community a horrible name and I'm tired of being associated with this elitist attitude.

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I absolutely beg to differ. I have a real engineering degree from a Top-10 engineering school and 10 years of experience (computer engineering is an aspect of computer science, not an actual branch of engineering). I am also very involved with cutting edge computer technologies. It is absolutely true that what slows down most systems is that there are too many processes running in the background. The computer takes longer to start up, and these unnecessary programs (which are loaded into RAM) consume unnecessary processor bandwidth. Also, by bogging down your RAM, the computer responds more slowly because the operations being performed by your computer require RAM for breathing space. The RAM is the bottleneck. You can upgrade RAM too, but I would start by leaning-up your system first as I have described above.

I also disagree that msconfig is dangerous for novices. Regedit is, but not msconfig. All of those little checkboxes are reversible.


Operator has been pwned, majorly.

'It is absolutely true that what slows down most systems is that there are too many processes running in the background. The computer takes longer to start up, and these unnecessary programs (which are loaded into RAM) consume unnecessary processor bandwidth. Also, by bogging down your RAM, the computer responds more slowly because the operations being performed by your computer require RAM for breathing space. The RAM is the bottleneck. You can upgrade RAM too, but I would start by leaning-up your system first as I have described above."

Even a second rate virus killer like me knows that. Lean, mean & make it scream.
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Assuming that someone uses an OS 95% of the world uses is just statistical guessing. =/ Not to mention you don't tell someone thats running a Linux machine to replace it with Linux, leaving us with like a 3% probability I'm wrong. Even then telling someone to replace OSX with Linux kind of takes away from owning an Apple (in some ways), so even if I am wrong, it's a horrible suggestion.

Look up "elitist" before calling someone it. BTW: I use Linux too. Woop de do.
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