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Old 09-17-07, 05:29 PM   #1
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Lifesaver water bottle

http://www.lifesaversystems.com/

Have any of you seen this bottle yet, from what I hear it is supposedly pretty good?

And if you have heard of it A LOT please don't hurt me.



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Old 09-17-07, 05:41 PM   #2
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Doesn't come in tangerine.
Wonder if it'll spark when you crush it in your teeth.
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Old 09-17-07, 05:42 PM   #3
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400 bucks?
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Old 09-17-07, 05:45 PM   #4
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The filter is nice and all, but I found its much cheaper to only put in clean water in the first place and skip all that filter junk. Besides...it's extra weight on the bike.
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there are much cheaper portable water filtration units on the market.
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Old 09-17-07, 06:00 PM   #6
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I was pointed at the site and never checked price, $400.00 seems a tad high, maybe they are a tad high.
I suppose for the uber rich this could do it.

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It removes 99.9999% of bacteria...

It only takes 1 germ to make you sick it it gets a chance to multiply in your gut...

Also, it costs more than my bike is worth...
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The idea is when you are in combat you no longer have to worry bout dipping you canteen in clean pools of H2O. Most bodies of water in combat have a wide varietiy of munitions, equiptment, oil and gas, not to mention the dead combatants and dead animals. That is why it is $400. Not meant to carry in your cage on a weekend ride.
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Looks interesting, but seems a bit cost prohibitive. Unless you have a specific use, I'd have to agree with KT and simply start out with clean water.
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US$400 is quite costly, but they claim a capacity of 4000 liters, which is pretty impressive. Still, you may not need all that capacity. More troubling is that the Lifesaver bottle is only a filter, not a purifier, so it's stretching the truth to say it produces sterile water. I much prefer to use a water purifier rather than a filter when water is needed in difficult circumstances.

There are many water purifiers available, but if you are looking for a very easy to use water-treatment-device-in-a-bottle, you may wish to consider the Katadyn Exstream Purifier. It's an actual water purifier, not a water filter, can make safe drinking water from practically any source, runs about US$50 and can treat 100 liters before the purifier insert needs replacement.
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Any good backpacking store will have an assortment of water filters...all much cheaper and easier to carry than the one posted.
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The idea is when you are in combat you no longer have to worry bout dipping you canteen in clean pools of H2O. Most bodies of water in combat have a wide varietiy of munitions, equiptment, oil and gas, not to mention the dead combatants and dead animals. That is why it is $400. Not meant to carry in your cage on a weekend ride.
It's 200 quid because they're marketing towards military application and probably charging the military 3 times that amount for a "harsh environment applications" model with an extra layer of rubber bumpers on the outside to make it different from the "civilian" model.

As for the filter vs. purifier argument... They claim 15nm filtration (or 0.15um) which is on par with laboratory filtration (0.22um) for sterility. I don't know what tech they're using to get 4000L of filtration at that purity, but it's possible if the filters don't clog up with all the grak you're filtering out.
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Whats with the CYSTS!!

I never found a CYST in my water!!!

Fungi, floatees and bacteria most likely - but never a CYST!
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Whats with the CYSTS!!

I never found a CYST in my water!!!

Fungi, floatees and bacteria most likely - but never a CYST!
Certain organisms use cysts to reproduce, especially in harsh environments because cysts can withstand drying.
Think of them like micro-organism 'seeds'.

Cryptosporidia and Giardia are two of the more common cystic microbes.
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Yuck.

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I always strain my water through an old t shirt I have worn for several days in the field. Adds a little flavor and if it dont kill you it makes you tougher.
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I always strain my water through an old t shirt I have worn for several days in the field. Adds a little flavor and if it dont kill you it makes you tougher.
You should try using your underpants instead of a t-shirt.
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yuk, that's gross!
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For 30 dollars you can get a filter from Hydrastorm that will fit into your camelback hose. Dunk the bag in the river, screw in the cap, and drink away.

This sounds like about as good of an investment as pet rocks or fuel injector cleaning.
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Certain organisms use cysts to reproduce, especially in harsh environments because cysts can withstand drying.
Think of them like micro-organism 'seeds'.

Cryptosporidia and Giardia are two of the more common cystic microbes.
oooh, both of those are fun....real fun. Especially when your on a trail, 50 miles from the nearest help.
Luckily iodine or chlorine pills will usually avoid these.
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yuk, that's gross!
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oooh, both of those are fun....real fun. Especially when your on a trail, 50 miles from the nearest help.
I used to work for a company where crypto and giardia were two of the biggest selling diagnostic kits we made. I got so tired of looking at fluorescing giardia cysts!
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I used to work for a company where crypto and giardia were two of the biggest selling diagnostic kits we made. I got so tired of looking at fluorescing giardia cysts!
What were you looking in to find those cysts?
on second thought...don't answer that.
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What were you looking in to find those cysts?
on second thought...don't answer that.
Microbiology ain't a pretty job.
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