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    Woman Tasered Numerous Times by Warren Police Officer

    I'm surprised there isn't already a topic about this:

    I searched for one to no avail. If this is already being discussed, please point me to that topic and lock this one. I'll put in my two cents after I hear a few opinions here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornery View Post
    I'm surprised there isn't already a topic about this:

    I searched for one to no avail. If this is already being discussed, please point me to that topic and lock this one. I'll put in my two cents after I hear a few opinions here.

    In P&R there is a reference to it, but it is my understanding you can't use search function for P&R stuff.

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    It is thread like "SS Hillbully". It will be a short stay in foo before this thread is moved.
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    Yet another horrible injustice against a poor innocent victim who, I'm sure, wasn't in the least bit drunk out of her mind or doing anything wrong at all.

    I really don't envy police officers for the crap they have to put up with.
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    Hmmm, didn't even think to look in P&R, because I can't see how it would fall under that category. Did a search there anyway for "taser" and it came back nil.

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    Yeah....that officer is gonna be out of a job very soon. Officers like that make my job very hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornery View Post
    Hmmm, didn't even think to look in P&R, because I can't see how it would fall under that category. Did a search there anyway for "taser" and it came back nil.

    You can not 'search' in P&R.

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    Gottcha. I did find the "HillBully" thread and posted there. Still not clear why it falls under P&R, but oh well...

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    Wow.
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    I think tasers are becoming horribly overused. They cause excruciating pain, and short of believing that someone will cause you or others great bodily harm and/or death, I don't believe there is an excuse for using them. They amount to cruel (but yes, these days usual) punishment otherwise. A friend of mine was almost tasered when he was a teen for turning his back on a cop. Not running, turning his back, so the guy draws down on him and threatens to tase him. And it's not like they could have been worried about weapons because he was in jail for being out 5 minutes past the curfew and had been searched.

    I am an advocate for taser use reform laws at the federal level. The police are becoming largely out of hand with them. Every time you look at the news there is another story of taser abuse.
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    Clearly a terrorist who has lost all Constitutional rights. Farkin' fat-assed pig bumbaclot!

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    They cause excruciating pain...

    And yet, people STILL don't comply. I'd think if I got zapped (or even threatened to get zapped), and a cop said, "Stay on the ground, and put your hands behind your back." I'd stay on the ground, and put my hands behind my back! But, that's just me...

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    Poor lady probably missed choir practice for the next few mornings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornery View Post
    They cause excruciating pain...

    And yet, people STILL don't comply. I'd think if I got zapped (or even threatened to get zapped), and a cop said, "Stay on the ground, and put your hands behind your back." I'd stay on the ground, and put my hands behind my back! But, that's just me...
    One would think, but that totally ruins the premise of the evil villain cop tasering an inncocent victim. Truth, rational thought, and both sides of the story are seldom welcome in the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    I think tasers are becoming horribly overused. They cause excruciating pain, and short of believing that someone will cause you or others great bodily harm and/or death, I don't believe there is an excuse for using them. They amount to cruel (but yes, these days usual) punishment otherwise. A friend of mine was almost tasered when he was a teen for turning his back on a cop. Not running, turning his back, so the guy draws down on him and threatens to tase him. And it's not like they could have been worried about weapons because he was in jail for being out 5 minutes past the curfew and had been searched.

    I am an advocate for taser use reform laws at the federal level. The police are becoming largely out of hand with them. Every time you look at the news there is another story of taser abuse.
    +1.
    Police have far too much power and unnaccountability today.
    People are still under the impression that police are all Mayberry RFD.
    There is a reason hundereds of pages come up under a 'police abuse'
    search on Google...No, lemme guess, its all a conspiracy against the
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    Get pulled in Vermont, Georgia or Johnson City Tenn., for example and
    see if you if you still think police are all episodes of COPS on FOX
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=Łem in Pa=- View Post
    +1.
    Police have far too much power and unnaccountability today.
    People are still under the impression that police are all Mayberry RFD.
    There is a reason hundereds of pages come up under a 'police abuse'
    search on Google...No, lemme guess, its all a conspiracy against the
    good guys
    Get pulled in Vermont, Georgia or Johnson City Tenn., for example and
    see if you if you still think police are all episodes of COPS on FOX
    I'll be the last one to say that police have never done anything wrong--certainly there are plenty of cases of legit abuse out there. but I'm guessing that the hundreds of pages on Google (a reliable, unbiased resource if ever there was) have a fair percentage of people who were "abused" by police because they were being apprehended and were too drunk/high/belligerent/etc. to actually do as they were told.

    I'm guessing if you spent a day or two with your life constantly in danger you might actually consider that there may actually be two sides to the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    I'll be the last one to say that police have never done anything wrong--certainly there are plenty of cases of legit abuse out there. but I'm guessing that the hundreds of pages on Google (a reliable, unbiased resource if ever there was) have a fair percentage of people who were "abused" by police because they were being apprehended and were too drunk/high/belligerent/etc. to actually do as they were told.

    I'm guessing if you spent a day or two with your life constantly in danger you might actually consider that there may actually be two sides to the story.
    I would venture to say that if one posted a poll in BF asking who had been 'abused' by the police, including a solid definition of what 'abused' means, one would probably find that the old ten percent rule applies. 10% of BF will have been abused by the 10% of cops who shouldn't be cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornery View Post
    They cause excruciating pain...

    And yet, people STILL don't comply. I'd think if I got zapped (or even threatened to get zapped), and a cop said, "Stay on the ground, and put your hands behind your back." I'd stay on the ground, and put my hands behind my back! But, that's just me...
    Never having had the chance to ride the lightening in that manner. I'd imagine it's kind of difficult to comply with much, especially something as specific as "put your hands behind your back" as you are be lit up. I'd hazard to guess that your hands are going to go where they damn well please. Most of these over use situations occur with the victim on the ground, the cop zapping the hell out of them screaming "Put your hands behind your back!". Gee, I'm sorry officer, I'd love to comply but I've just been zapped and I can't do a thing with my hair.

    Anyone want to volunteer as a test subject to confirm or disprove my theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
    I would venture to say that if one posted a poll in BF asking who had been 'abused' by the police, including a solid definition of what 'abused' means, one would probably find that the old ten percent rule applies. 10% of BF will have been abused by the 10% of cops who shouldn't be cops.
    I'd take that bet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    I'll be the last one to say that police have never done anything wrong--certainly there are plenty of cases of legit abuse out there. but I'm guessing that the hundreds of pages on Google (a reliable, unbiased resource if ever there was) have a fair percentage of people who were "abused" by police because they were being apprehended and were too drunk/high/belligerent/etc. to actually do as they were told.

    I'm guessing if you spent a day or two with your life constantly in danger you might actually consider that there may actually be two sides to the story.
    How do you know I dont ?
    There are two sides . The lying Im a bully with a new toy side,
    and the Im a drunk 105lb female getting beat up by the bully with a new toy side.
    It takes a certain personality to need to make a life career out of imposing authority
    on people. That personality is also prone to abusing that authority.
    CNN has the video. The actions of the psycho-cop are indefensible by any standard.
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    Last edited by Ornery; 09-23-07 at 12:33 PM.

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    But what right does an apprehending police officer have to tell someone what to do? ATTICA! ATTICA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    Anyone want to volunteer as a test subject to confirm or disprove my theory?

    Through my own stupidity, the stupidity of others, and just plain accidents I have been shocked on jobsites more times that I can remember. When you really catch a full dose of current, you lose control of that part of your body, just like you say.

    Police typically are trained to tell subjects to put their hands out or whatever after they stop shocking them. Tasers can be shut off by pressing a button, even before the 5 seconds is up, or 30 seconds if its a civilian taser. Of course many in the heat of the moment or due to ignorance forget to turn it off before barking orders. Frankly I don't mind that so much.

    It's the cops that tase people for the littlest things when patience and polite talking would get the job done that bug me. Like those idiots who tased that obnoxious little prick in Florida at the John Kerry speech at a the university, even though he violated no laws and John Kerry asked that he be allowed to speak. I believe jail time is appropriate for when cops get out of line like that. Serious force for opening your mouth and not threatening anyone in any manner should be felonious assault.
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