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Old 09-24-07, 01:43 AM   #1
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Why I hate messenger bags

1) They distribute weight unevenly. If you have more than a notebook in there, they will hurt your shoulders and back.

2) They're overpriced compared to ergonomically superior backpacks.

3) They typically make you look like a tool. Especially those TIMBUK2 bags.

4) I hate hipsters, and more often than not, hipsters are rocking the messenger bags.

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Old 09-24-07, 01:51 AM   #2
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My osprey sack has treated me fairly well. For school, it's far superior to a BD backpack I've been using for some years.

It's all about the fit and the intended usage. The bag itself is mostly irrelevant.
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Old 09-24-07, 01:55 AM   #3
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1) They distribute weight unevenly. If you have more than a notebook in there, they will hurt your shoulders and back.

2) They're overpriced compared to ergonomically superior backpacks.

3) They typically make you look like a tool. Especially those TIMBUK2 bags.

4) I hate hipsters, and more often than not, hipsters are rocking the messenger bags.

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mine is well padded, and fits my back well. and doesnt hurt my shoulders or back.
mine cost about 40 bucks and can hold a full load of clothes.

doesnt this thread get started about once a week in some sub forum or another around here?

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oh and i like excuses to post pics of my bag

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Old 09-24-07, 02:02 AM   #4
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That's rather clean, isn't it?
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okay, well that's actually a nice looking bag.

I hate messenger bags, except for that one c0urt has....
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I agree, especially with #1 and #2.

They're not designed to be comfortable. They're more concerned about easy access (you can load/unload without taking it off). If you don't need those features, might as well get a back pack.

And like all other "cycling-specific" products, you're paying a premium.
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Old 09-24-07, 02:37 AM   #7
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okay, well that's actually a nice looking bag.

I hate messenger bags, except for that one c0urt has....
thanks!

that pic was right after i made it. it isnt that clean now. the blue and red parts dont show dirt really.
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fk you and your timbk2....LOL! I've used both extensively and actually think my timbuk2 performs better than a backpack...but troll away!
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Old 09-24-07, 03:42 AM   #9
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I prefer them over backpacks. Backpacks makes me feel unfree. Best solution is panniers. Other than that buy a messanger bag that has straps to secure it to your side. It sort of floats freely over clinging to your back.
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1) They distribute weight unevenly. If you have more than a notebook in there, they will hurt your shoulders and back.

2) They're overpriced compared to ergonomically superior backpacks.

3) They typically make you look like a tool. Especially those TIMBUK2 bags.

4) I hate hipsters, and more often than not, hipsters are rocking the messenger bags.

Discuss.
messenger bags were around long before those fg churning, pbr sipping, stupid tattoo decorated morons decided to become a 'sub-culture'.
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Old 09-24-07, 05:24 AM   #11
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I prefer them over backpacks. Backpacks makes me feel unfree. Best solution is panniers. Other than that buy a messanger bag that has straps to secure it to your side. It sort of floats freely over clinging to your back.
Panniers are convenient for those that meet the following:

1) don't park the bike many times a day in a place where poeple might go "searching for treasure" on your bike. (in this case, frequent unclipping/reclipping of panniers would get irritating)

2) Have space at your destination for them (some of us working folks only have a rather small locker to fit all our stuff in)

3) don't mind having all that weight over their back wheel (I found out after losing it on a few sand patches located at the intersections out here, that panniers are more of a liability for me than anything....unless you don't mind going really slow that is)

I'm not knocking them, my point is there is an answer for everyone....mine happened to be a messenger bag. backpacks pull at my shoulders in a way I don't like...it feels like my upper torso flexibility is being compromised. For me a messenger bag is the ultimate in comfort, convenience and practicality. Heck, I even use my Timbuk2 as a carry-on when flying (I just remove the reflectors and torso strap).
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messenger bags were around long before those fg churning, pbr sipping, stupid tattoo decorated morons decided to become a 'sub-culture'.
Wait a second there, mister. You're telling me you're NOT a so-called 'hipster?'


Dangit all to hades. I'm going to have to return all my wardrobe to Hot Topic.


Where should I be outfitting myself these days to be a part of the correct 'sub-culture?'







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Old 09-24-07, 06:49 AM   #13
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Wait a second there, mister. You're telling me you're NOT a so-called 'hipster?'


Dangit all to hades. I'm going to have to return all my wardrobe to Hot Topic.


Where should I be outfitting myself these days to be a part of the correct 'sub-culture?'








here, here, or billyburg.
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Old 09-24-07, 06:52 AM   #14
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here, here, or billyburg.
I thought you were going to point me here. Or here.

I guess this padawan still has much to learn.
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Old 09-24-07, 07:12 AM   #15
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My Badlands pack from SLC cost 120 bucks 8 years ago. I got that after my messenger bag drove me nuts and eventually broke. No problems with Badlands and their you break it we fix it warranty. Plus they are as comfy as can be.
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Old 09-24-07, 07:18 AM   #16
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I thought you were going to point me here. Or here.

I guess this padawan still has much to learn.
i thought you wanted to go for the generic i'm a hipster look.
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Old 09-24-07, 07:32 AM   #17
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A messenger bag shot my pa in cold blood. Sheriff Taylor says that he thinks Barney can track him down at checkpoint chickey.

I just want to see at least one renegade messenger bag brought to justice.
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my messenger bag got drunk and ate my glove last night
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i can't stand riding with a backpack. i can't stand hiking with a messenger bag.
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what do you wear if riding to a hike?
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what do you wear if riding to a hike?
messenger bag, with backpack inside.
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Old 09-24-07, 12:19 PM   #23
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I've been thinking about getting a TIMBUK2 bag for a while, because I get them at cost price .
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Old 09-24-07, 12:26 PM   #24
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REI has Timbuk2 bags for dirt cheap sometimes. Look at the outlet portion of the website. I see them in there pretty often.

I got a messenger bag a while back (Chrome Mini-Metro, the smallest model), and I'm really liking it a lot more than I liked using a backpack. Seems to hold a load better, is more comfortable to wear while riding, easy to get into, etc etc. The seatbelt-buckle latch looks really cool, but it's handy and reliable as well.

Okay, it makes me look like something of a hipster-doofus-wannabe, but whatever. *shrug*
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I have both a Timbuk2 and a Chrome bag and I'm happy that I got both. Yeah, I look like a hipster (minus the tattoos) when I ride my fixed gear with my Chrome bag but I think my messenger bag is great. I tried riding my bike with a backpack and it was uncomfortable for I found myself over packing my bag and hurting my bag in the long run. Since I began riding with my messenger bag I only ride with my necessities which has saved my shoulders and back a lot of pain.

Finally, I'm with botto, messenger bags were used long before the whole FG culture became big.
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