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    Better to ask for forgiveness than permission...

    Please discuss....is this a bad motto? Is it wrong to think this way.....are you a lier if you live by this?

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    No, it's not a bad motto! It's worked for me for almost 50 years!

    If everyone waited for permission, we'd still be living in animal skins and as hunter/gatherers
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    I think it's been shown to be a bad philosophy for politicians.

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    Hmmmm.....I agree with both responders.
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    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    Nothing wrong with it at all - as long as you pick your spots. As I recall hearing the saying, it was: "Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission."


    On the other hand, sometimes it's much better to lay low and not rock the boat. The trick is to figure out which one applies when.
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    Well, as they say: everything in moderation.




    Including moderation?

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    My current issue is the girlfriend has heard that saying from ME....and now assumes that I mean it in the way of our relationship......


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    Quote Originally Posted by bikingshearer View Post
    "Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission."
    Exactly. Most times call for honesty, but sometimes ya gotta do whatcha gotta do, and hope it turns out okay in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    No, it's not a bad motto! It's worked for me for almost 50 years!

    If everyone waited for permission, we'd still be living in animal skins and as hunter/gatherers
    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biffstephens View Post
    My current issue is the girlfriend has heard that saying from ME....and now assumes that I mean it in the way of our relationship......




    If you can't stand by it, don't say it.

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    I work in a cGMP and ISO certified facility licensed for blood virus diagnostics. If you don't ask permission to deviate from procedures, you get the keys to the street. The FDA isn't big on forgiveness when audit time rolls around.
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    Depends on job and what you are doing. In any major IT department, generally someone who "obtains" root/admin rights on pretty much any server to do something then asks for "forgiveness" will be asked for their badge and handed a box for the supplies for their desk in short order.

    Its all up to you. Use your judgement, and know the person. If its borrowing an optical drive from HR to do an emergency CD burn for a client, that is one thing. If its rebooting into single user mode the OpenLDAP server on the main XServe [1] in a company because you forgot your password, that is definitely another.

    [1]: Yes, Apple has a decent LDAP implementation in OSX S. However, I've not used it much, as companies tend to want the Macs to authenticate off the Active Directory stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlts22 View Post
    Depends on job and what you are doing. In any major IT department, generally someone who "obtains" root/admin rights on pretty much any server to do something then asks for "forgiveness" will be asked for their badge and handed a box for the supplies for their desk in short order.

    Its all up to you. Use your judgement, and know the person. If its borrowing an optical drive from HR to do an emergency CD burn for a client, that is one thing. If its rebooting into single user mode the OpenLDAP server on the main XServe [1] in a company because you forgot your password, that is definitely another.

    [1]: Yes, Apple has a decent LDAP implementation in OSX S. However, I've not used it much, as companies tend to want the Macs to authenticate off the Active Directory stuff.
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    In relationships, you should know where each other stands and what is and what isn't acceptable. Permission and forgiveness shouldn't need be sought.

    In the work place I would have to say it would go by company standards. If the manual says to do or not a certain something a certain way, then it gets done that way. If there is no mandate then you are open to interpretation.

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