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Old 10-05-07, 08:47 AM   #1
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I'm going to the EDUCAUSE convention in Seattle in two weeks and I will have a full day and several free nites.... First time visit... Any suggestions on places to visit, what to do???? Is it worthwhile renting a bicycle to get around?? Interesting ferry rides????
Any outstanding affordable places to eat???
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Will you be staying in Seattle itself?
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yes downtown Seattle...
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I can't help much with restaurants, as I live in the cultural deficit of Bellevue.


But maybe a few things to see:

Needle has a nice view of mountains and the Puget Sound. It's about $15 to go to top. If you go try to do it in full sun so you can get some decent pics.

Right by the needle is the EMP (Experience Music Project) and Sci-Fi Museum. I wasn't particular impressed with either to be honest (so, a warning there)

I'd surely recommend heading east on I-90 (maybe 30-35 miles from Seattle) and go to Snoqualmie Falls. You can see some of my pics at www.flickr.com/kingtermite. You can google directions easy enough.

Pikes Place Market is what most people love. Its really just a big flea market, but a good place to get souvineers, I guess.

Possibly the Freemont troll....that won't be too far.

Head over to Pioneer Square, maybe do the underground tour. If you like book stores, you've got to check out Elliot Bay Book Co. in that area.

Duck tours start around the needle too. They are a good way to see a little bit of everything in an hour or two.

I'm still fairly new here....so I don't know the "real" (non-touristy) places to go (or tell you about) yet.
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I'm going to the EDUCAUSE convention in Seattle in two weeks and I will have a full day and several free nites.... First time visit... Any suggestions on places to visit, what to do???? Is it worthwhile renting a bicycle to get around?? Interesting ferry rides????
Any outstanding affordable places to eat???
I'm heading there tomorrow morning. For an outstanding restaurant, which is very reasonable for what you get, try Etta's, just down the street from Pike Place Market. I believe it's on Western Avenue.
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If you do make it over to Bellevue, you've GOT to try "Mediterranean Kitchen". It's right next to Greg's Cycles Bellevue location. Probably best restaurant I've ever eaten at.
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Are you bringing your own bike or are you planning on renting? I don't know of any rental places in downtown (there might be, I am just not aware of them). I know Gregg's in Greenlake rents, but, I'm not sure if they rent all-year-around. Call them to ask (Google them for a phone number). Ask if you can rent a bike with fenders.

If you are downtown, try the Pikes Place Fish Market for fun and/or food. The Market closes at 5pm. Don't forget to get your sample of Chukar Cherries (but buy them bulk at the Flagship REI---it's cheaper per pound that way). You can eat at Pikes Place Market---many little eateries in the area, or eat at Etta's (recommended above). I've been told that Etta's is cheaper at lunch, same sizes as supper.

There are a couple places that have much better value (IMHO) than Ettas that can be biked to relatively easily from downtown. One is Chinooks, at Fisherman's Terminal, in Magnolia. The other is Rays Boathouse Cafe (upstairs. The restaurant downstairs is excellent, but more expensive), in Ballard/Shilshole. To bike in their general direction, start at the the Mertle (sp?) Edwards Park in downtown, (along the water, you can look over the park from the Sculpture Garden) and bike on the bike trail north. It will go through an industrial area (keep going!), then, the trail ends and you have to follow roads. At this point, you are probably 1-1.5 miles from Chinooks, and probably 3 miles or so to Rays Boathouse. To get you to Rays Boathouse, I would either send you on this path and across the Locks, or, via another route that will allow you to stop at the Locks along the way. If you go across the Locks, maybe you'll see the Great Blue Heron balancing on the high wire!!!

But, start early, I think the M.Edwards trail closes at 9pm.

You should walk from Pikes Place Market north to the Sculpture Garden. The view is to-die-for, especially at sunset (if there's a sun that day, that is).

Don't forget to sample beers of the PNW. You can get them at almost any bar or restaurant you go into. If you're used to pseudo-beers like what comes from Miller or Budweiser (eee--uuueew), be ready for a big surprise. I highly recommend Jolly Rogers in Ballard: beer + a couple Mini Mahi's, and life couldn't be better. OR, up to Capital Hill to the Elysian Brewery---great beers, one of my favorites is Perseus Porter, and good food as well. Take a bus to either of these places; biking back to the hotel in a strange town with a couple beers in you isn't the greatest idea, especially if it's going to be raining. I wouldn't want you to get hypothermia. Hales beers, IMHO, aren't as good as these, but if you don't like strong flavored beers, Hales might be the place for you to go, and they have great food. It's also situated nicely next to the Burke-Gilman bike trail, that will take you into Fremont, and from Fremont you can follow major arteries back into downtown. Or, buses have bike racks that can take up to 2 bikes. If you want, you can bike there and bus back.

This should keep you busy. If you want more details or have something specific in mind, feel free to send a PM.
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Good point FlowerBlossom....I never think of beer as I don't like beer, but as I understand it, PNW has almost more local microbrew brands to try than almost any other area.
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Geez, I didn't answer your question. If you are going to be here just a day, IMHO, then no, it's not worth renting this time of year. Days are too short and the rain ... you'd have to have all the gear to stay warm, plus navigate around with a map while it's raining...ugh. I personally like to travel light, and if I have to bring my bike gear too, that's too much. And, Murphy's Law states that if you bring all that gear, it will be a gloriously sunny day. If you were here longer than a day, it might be worth it.

BTW, to add to the above, the #31 bus will take you directly in front of Chinooks, but to get to Rays Boathouse you will probably have to either take a cab, or, bus + walk.

If you're looking to do something after supper, there's a great movie house called the Big Picture (under Gaucho's) that sells alcohol along with the movie. Check for the movie (singular) they are playing before going, you might have seen it already.
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Right by the needle is the EMP (Experience Music Project) and Sci-Fi Museum. I wasn't particular impressed with either to be honest (so, a warning there)

The EMP is a cool place if you're a music/rock fan - they have cool artifacts such as stage costumes and rare guitars.

The Sci-Fi Museum I could have cared less for, but if you're a hardcore Trekkie/etc. it's worth a gander.

I had gotten suckered in getting the package for like $30 or something to go up the Space Needle, and visit EMP and Sci-Fi Museum -

The view from atop the Space Needle is nice - but it's a quick 3-minute walk around it and unless you're in a pensive mood to sit down and ponder the ways of the world while looking at the scenery you'll probably be done after snapping a few pics.

Pikes Market is a great place to visit - you can see the famous fish-throwing stand, etc.

If you're interested in aviation, the Museum of Flight is really neat, and Boeing has a new factory tour as well that's interesting.

As for food, if you are a steak lover like me, I heartily encourage you to try Daniel's Broiler right on Lake Union (they also have a Bellevue location) - their filet w/ bearnaise sauce is to die for. Places like Ruth's Chris do not hold a candle to this place.


Here's a few snaps of some of the stuff up there so you can get a preview -


Space Needle / EMP -




Looking down at the structure made of instruments inside the EMP -




View from atop the Needle -





If the weather is nice and you have a full day, rent a car and drive north 1 to 1.5 hours to Anacortes and you can take a ferry around the San Juan Islands and check out popular spots such as Deception Pass.


Ferry at Friday Harbor -




View from the ferry -




From Deception Pass -





Disclaimer: A lot of the suggestions of outdoor things to do is, of course, weather-dependent.
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Ferry rides:

I like the Bainbridge Island ferry. I forget if you can get to the Winslow downtown area or not from the ferry on foot. (I am usually in a car on my way elsewhere when I go to Bainbridge Island.)

This website will come in handy:

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/schedules/current/

Click around for fares. It's much cheaper on foot.
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Pikes Place Market is what most people love. Its really just a big flea market, but a good place to get souvineers, I guess.
It's a farmers' market, not a flea market. While the north end of the market has its share of flea market-ish t-shirt and velvet Elvis vendors, the majourity of the upstairs market is the fresh food stands and the lower levels are mostly specialty collector's shops. There are not any folding tables full of hubcaps and old Coke bottles. When I lived in Cap. Hill, I did most of my grocery shopping at Pike's. (Sorry to be snippy about it, KT, but you don't get fresh oysters and salmon right off the boat at a flea market.)

If you want something good to eat while down at Pike's, check out Piroshky Piroshky! Real deal Russian piroshkys; I suggest the spinach egg and cheese. Piroshky is just a few doors down from the original Starbucks, if you're into the touristy stuff. At the south (Pike St) entrance to the market is the stand where they throw the fish. Again, it's touristy stuff but it's fun to watch somebody fling a 5 pound fish over the heads of a bunch of unsuspecting onlookers.

If you don't like corporate coffeehouses, then head up to Capitol Hill and hit up the Victrola (near 15th and Republican.) There's also some good restaurants along that strip on 15th.
If you're into just buying food, not restaurant prepared stuff, there's a TJ's on 17th and it's walking distance from the Victrola. There's a Whole Foods, but I can't remember where it is. If you want awesome Asian food (grocery or prepared, there's a food bar in the grocery) check out Uwajimaya down on 6th Ave.
For the best sandwich you've ever had (or ever will have) in your entire life, then go to Salumi over on 3rd. It's owned and run by Mario Batalli's father, and there are very limited hours. I think they're only open Tuesday - Friday from 11am to 3 or 4pm. Get there by 10:15 to guarantee a spot in the front of the line. There's a meat and cheese sampler if you just want to try everything (get one to go) and then get a sandwich. It's a little pricey, but worth the money and the wait in line.


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Oh, I forgot about Ivar's Fish Bar down on the docks. Head down to the waterfront from the market, and it's south about 3 blocks. There's another Ivar's in the U-district, connected to Ivar's Salmon House (their pricier sit-down joint, if that's what you're into.) Ivar's Fish Bar is their plastic lunch tray, fish 'n' chips take-away window. If you dig clam chowder, then Ivar's is the place to go.
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It's a farmers' market, not a flea market. While the north end of the market has its share of flea market-ish t-shirt and velvet Elvis vendors, the majourity of the upstairs market is the fresh food stands and the lower levels are mostly specialty collector's shops. There are not any folding tables full of hubcaps and old Coke bottles. When I lived in Cap. Hill, I did most of my grocery shopping at Pike's. (Sorry to be snippy about it, KT, but you don't get fresh oysters and salmon right off the boat at a flea market.)
While there is plenty of fresh veg/fruit/meat vendors, I also recall (especially on top level) lots of vendors selling handmade christmas ornaments from Mt. Saint Helen's Ash, newstands/card shops, handmade beads/ornaments, and much "junk" like that. However, you are right, there are some very interesting specialty shops below (I'm thinking of the Native American art store, that music store with all kinds of interesting non-normal instruments, etc..).

BTW....I just hit that Victrola's coffee shop last weekend....it was fantastic.
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While there is plenty of fresh veg/fruit/meat vendors, I also recall (especially on top level) lots of vendors selling handmade christmas ornaments from Mt. Saint Helen's Ash, newstands/card shops, handmade beads/ornaments, and much "junk" like that. However, you are right, there are some very interesting specialty shops below (I'm thinking of the Native American art store, that music store with all kinds of interesting non-normal instruments, etc..).

BTW....I just hit that Victrola's coffee shop last weekend....it was fantastic.
The junk vendors you're talking about are all at that north end of the market, up near the 'open-air' spaces where the rest of the garbage merchants who're too cheap to pay for a spot inside all go.

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The junk vendors you're talking about are all at that north end of the market, up near the 'open-air' spaces where the rest of the garbage merchants who're too cheap to pay for a spot inside all go.

/"No, I don't need a poorly airbrushed t-shirt of a kitten in a rainhat standing in front of the Space Needle, with the caption 'How about this beautiful weather?'"
So true...that sounds exactly like the t-shirts I've seen there. Yes, I was referring to the open air part.
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If you do make it over to Bellevue, you've GOT to try "Mediterranean Kitchen". It's right next to Greg's Cycles Bellevue location. Probably best restaurant I've ever eaten at.
I don't know if they are related but there is a Mediterranean Kitchen in lower Queen Anne at Roy st and Queen Anne Ave. Great food.
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I don't know if they are related but there is a Mediterranean Kitchen in lower Queen Anne at Roy st and Queen Anne Ave. Great food.
I think they are. I believe that one is the original, and then this one was built. Best damn food I've ever tried.
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If you want something good to eat while down at Pike's, check out Piroshky Piroshky! Real deal Russian piroshkys; I suggest the spinach egg and cheese. Piroshky is just a few doors down from the original Starbucks, if you're into the touristy stuff.
I recomend their Salmon Piroshky, and be prepared to stand in line. There is also the Copacabana down the street specializes in South American food. Great stuff
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I like the Turkish place.

mmmm....time for lunch....
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mmmm....time for lunch....
Turkish place? Where? That sounds fun.
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It's called Turkish Delight. On a corner, closer to Etta's than bronze pig.

I eat the savory pastries, called borek, because I'm vegetarian. But they also have the Turkish equivalent of shwarma that people really seem to like---there's always someone digging into one when I'm there. And, Turkish coffee, of course. And, their stuffed grape leaves are great...a bit more expensive than usual because they are at least 3 times bigger than those ones you usually get.
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A cheaper and (in my opinion) better option than going up in the Space Needle, is to go to the 73rd floor of the Columbia tower (5th and Columbia.) True, it doesn't rotate, but they have the highest viewing deck in Seattle. And it's $3 as opposed to the $15 or whatever the Needle charges.
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Thanks for all your suggestions...
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I can't help much with restaurants, as I live in the cultural deficit of Bellevue.


But maybe a few things to see:

Needle has a nice view of mountains and the Puget Sound. It's about $15 to go to top. If you go try to do it in full sun so you can get some decent pics.

Right by the needle is the EMP (Experience Music Project) and Sci-Fi Museum. I wasn't particular impressed with either to be honest (so, a warning there)

I'd surely recommend heading east on I-90 (maybe 30-35 miles from Seattle) and go to Snoqualmie Falls. You can see some of my pics at www.flickr.com/kingtermite. You can google directions easy enough.

Pikes Place Market is what most people love. Its really just a big flea market, but a good place to get souvineers, I guess.

Possibly the Freemont troll....that won't be too far.

Head over to Pioneer Square, maybe do the underground tour. If you like book stores, you've got to check out Elliot Bay Book Co. in that area.

Duck tours start around the needle too. They are a good way to see a little bit of everything in an hour or two.

I'm still fairly new here....so I don't know the "real" (non-touristy) places to go (or tell you about) yet.

Seriously? I live in Bellevue too! The restaurant at the top of the Hyatt Building is reallly good!
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