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    Ebay & Nigeria

    What's going on? i've spent last night and this morning on ebay checking out bike parts for my 1st build, i noticed a lot of sellers high-light that they didn't welcome bidders from Nigeria, some people were quite blunt. Not been on ebay for months, whats this all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by virgin-rider View Post
    What's going on? i've spent last night and this morning on ebay checking out bike parts for my 1st build, i noticed a lot of sellers high-light that they didn't welcome bidders from Nigeria, some people were quite blunt. Not been on ebay for months, whats this all about?

    cheers
    never heard of Nigerian scammers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    never heard of Nigerian scammers?
    because scammers in other countries never exist....

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    Nigeria has gotten a bad reputation for web scams. Although I'm not sure what happens, my guess is that the people buy the item on eBay and then send the seller a counterfeit cashiers check for some amount over the purchase. The "buyer" might then ask that the seller send the item along with extra cash from the check. When the check bounces several days later, you lost the item and the money that you sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szczuldo View Post
    because scammers in other countries never exist....
    . . . but Nigeria has more than its fair share; I have a friend in the FBI and he said it's a real problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szczuldo View Post
    because scammers in other countries never exist....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szczuldo View Post
    because scammers in other countries never exist....
    And yet 95-plus percent of scams come from Nigeria.

    Yes, I suppose it hurts all of the legitimate daughters of imprisoned Nigerian princes who are in the market on ebay for a late-model Madone to ride while in political exile, but that's just a risk some sellers are willing to take.
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    I don't understand why we just don't pull Nigeria's web access, and be done with them until they grow up and get control of themselves.
    Not too much to say here

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    I don't understand why we just don't pull Nigeria's web access, and be done with them until they grow up and get control of themselves.
    Heh...it's up to us?
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    One of the news crews did a TV special on internet fraud.They found an awful lot of it was coming from Nigeria.They went to Nigeria and got the run around from the government over there.

    They found website chat rooms for nothing but stolen credit card numbers and the likes.They wouldn't say the name of the sites but say the FBI and other officials are aware of it.They went so far as to post an ad for a stolen number (wink wink) and had a hit in as little as 10 seconds.The card company said the first transaction happened about 1 minute later and it was a donation to the Red Cross for a buck to see if it was any good.Then the next transactions quickly maxed out the card.

    There are all kinds of scams from them that want to send you a check for way more than the purchase price.
    If you ever see anything like that report it and cut the transaction.
    "I didn't see him/her" is a confession, not an excuse.

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    I personally had one of my credit cards "pirated" by someone in Nigeria. Here's the story:

    I had been working on an out-of-town assignment in Portland, OR. While out there, I had used my personal credit card to make a few (very few) purchases. Mostly these were at Barnes & Noble and Borders bookstores, and once at a Western Wear outlet store.

    After I was done with this project, and was back home, I received a phone call at my home (in Kentucky) from a police detective from the East Wenatchee, WA police department, who explained that he was investigating a credit card fraud case, and that one of the credit card numbers used he was able to trace back to me. He suggested that I immediately notify my credit card company to freeze that card. I did so.

    Later on I got the full story.

    It seems that a woman in East Wenatchee had signed up for an internet "singles" service, and she was subsequently contacted by and befriended by a guy in Nigeria. This guy cultivated the relationship and won her confidence - all by e-mail, etc (they never actually met). The guy also expressed his friendship by sending her a few gifts.

    Eventually the guy got her to agree to accept items delivered to her house, and to leave those items on her front porch when she went to work. An accomplice would come by to pick the items up.

    (The detective theorized that the guy in Nigeria was buying things with stolen credit card numbers, having an accomplice collect them and store them, and eventually - maybe when he had a container full of stuff - ship it to him in Nigeria where he would fence the stuff on a Black Market).

    This went on for a while, until the woman in East Wenatchee became alarmed at the volume of goods passing through her hands, and related her suspicions to the police. The police started picking up the goods before the accomplice could collect them, then using the packing lists to trace the purchases back to the merchant.

    In the end, the East Wenatchee detective was unable to continue his investigation because of jurisdictional problems - there was actually not a "victim" per se (someone who had actually suffered a loss) in his jurisdiction. He was able to verify a credit card in the name of someone in Corvallis, OR (a suburb of Portland), and mine. He turned the case over to the Corvallis PD. He advised me to try to start a case at my PD in Kentucky, but frankly they were unwilling to spend any time on the case, because even if they took it on there was no way that they would ever bring it to prosecution.

    My suspicions lie with the Western Outlet store. I went in there one day to buy a pair of boots, and I recall that the female salesclerk seemed to have "difficulty" imprinting my credit card. I suspect that she ran off a second imprint, and passed the number and other data along to the Nigerian ring - perhaps she had also been coerced by this guy. Anyway, that's what I suspect.

    All told, there were about $1000 +/- charges to my card before I stopped it.

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    I've personally never received a scam e-mail that wasn't from Nigeria.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Yup, that scam was also on the special.There was just way too much for me to type.
    "I didn't see him/her" is a confession, not an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    I've personally never received a scam e-mail that wasn't from Nigeria.
    A good deal of it comes from Russia and the former Soviet states, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    I don't understand why we just don't pull Nigeria's web access, and be done with them until they grow up and get control of themselves.
    This has to be one of the most arrogant American-centric comments I've ever heard or read.

    I sincerely hope your attitude is a minority one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgalad View Post
    This has to be one of the most arrogant American-centric comments I've ever heard or read.

    I sincerely hope your attitude is a minority one.
    You just haven't read enough alanbikehouston.
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete View Post
    You just haven't read enough alanbikehouston.
    or some of the xenophobic and racist stuff in p&r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    I don't understand why we just don't pull Nigeria's web access, and be done with them until they grow up and get control of themselves.

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    And away we go.......
    "I didn't see him/her" is a confession, not an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    I don't understand why we just don't pull Nigeria's web access, and be done with them until they grow up and get control of themselves.
    There are economic consequences as we learned during the Internet Crash of 2007:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...ll_online_data


    The effect it had on Nigeria is discussed at the 2:07 mark in the video.

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    They have actually tried to scam my LBS and various other stores I know about.

    Someone calls in on the special line created for those who are hard of hearing (there is an operator that relays the call between the two people) and explains their story about how they are overseas but have relatives in the United States and they wish to purchase a $7000 bike. So they kinda walk you through the whole deal and offer a credit card, address, and everything else. It turns out that they are doing the exact same thing as above; using stolen credit cards, hiding themselves, and sending it to some drop point to be picked up later.

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    Ebay's headquarters are located in Nigeria. It's all legitimate there. There is no need to question any of it and most Nigerian businessmen that have contacted me have impeccable resume's and are very well funded.

    They apparently run such well funded enterprises that their cashiers checks are usually only in large denominations, so sometimes you have to wire large balances back to them, but they give you a nice profit for your troubles.

    Nothing to worry about, there. Enjoy your transactions: I am sure you will profit well.


    http://scamorama.com/
    Last edited by orcanova; 10-14-07 at 11:08 AM.

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    Interesting, I'm Nigerian.

    I'll just sit back and watch.

    Question to the moderators, is this in line with your guidelines? I haven't read them, but I'm curious.

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    The best story I heard was of a fellow who scammed the scammer out of a few hundred euros.
    Die schokoladenseite des radfahrens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankBattle View Post
    Interesting, I'm Nigerian.

    I'll just sit back and watch.

    Question to the moderators, is this in line with your guidelines? I haven't read them, but I'm curious.
    Oh this thread is, comparatively, like cute bunnies in fields of flowers.
    Die schokoladenseite des radfahrens.

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