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Old 10-18-07, 09:10 AM   #1
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Birth Control for Middle Schoolers

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/...contraceptives

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Oh man, your Bush signature is not happy about this at all. Abstinence education for the win.

Well, it sucks that they have to do it, but good on them for trying to deal with the issue. Hopefully they will also be increasing the sex education they are currently giving their students.
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Oh man, your Bush signature is not happy about this at all. Abstinence education for the win.

Well, it sucks that they have to do it, but good on them for trying to deal with the issue. Hopefully they will also be increasing the sex education they are currently giving their students.

I don't think kids should be having sex at age 11. Call me a prude.
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I don't think kids should be having sex at age 11. Call me a prude.
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Hey, if they are going to have sex, they should be encouraged to protect themselves.



"More than half of Galveston schoolchildren said they’ve had sex by the ninth grade" http://news.galvestondailynews.com/s...26e814789941cb



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I don't think kids should be having sex at age 11. Call me a prude.
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I don't think kids should be having sex at age 11. Call me a prude.
I agree with you, but if they are having sex, the school shouldn't turn a blind eye. While discouraging it, they should be providing more sex education, both abstinence, and safe sex. And part of safe sex education/policy is providing the means for safe sex, they can either do it by getting the parents involved more, or by handing it out themselves.
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Neither do I, but you know what? It's happening despite all the abstinence training and preaching.

Either they have a good head on their shoulders and know better than to experiment, or they are going to do it because they are not supposed to. In either case, arming them with facts is (IMHO) a far superior method than telling them "No, don't do it!"
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What about the homeshcoolers? What are they going to do?

And on a serious note, 11 is too young to have sex. Seems like they are enabling the kids just a bit.
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It looks from the article, that the kids were enabled by someone else, the school is trying to deal with the problem. Internet porn is just a click away for these kids, adults profiting from this awful stuff are a huge part of the problem.

I agree that 11 is too young, the school is not the problem, they are just trying to help, maybe where the parents are clueless??
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I agree with you, but if they are having sex, the school shouldn't turn a blind eye. While discouraging it, they should be providing more sex education, both abstinence, and safe sex. And part of safe sex education/policy is providing the means for safe sex, they can either do it by getting the parents involved more, or by handing it out themselves.

There's this thing called parents. EDIT> Actually there USED TO BE this thing called parents. Aren't many of us left.

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What's wrong with it?
The number of teenage pregnancy's that will eventually result from such a policy. Giving out birth control and other services in this manner, and at this age indirectly helps to "mainstream" sex overall at a younger age.

Then...(IF the "mother" doesn't abort the baby) the kid will probably be raised by a teenage mom, probably not have a father figure in his or her life, and more than likely will live a life close to or in poverty. More than likely the mother will be immature and not ready to properly care for the child. More than likely, the child will have emotional, behavioral, and social issues. To top it off...these kids, more than likely (in some way shape or form) will affect the lives of my kids adversely, and kids of other parents who want to raise their kids the right way.

Thats whats f!@#in wrong with it.
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The number of teenage pregnancy's that will eventually result from such a policy. Giving out birth control and other services in this manner, and at this age indirectly helps to "mainstream" sex overall at a younger age.

Then...(IF the "mother" doesn't abort the baby) the kid will probably be raised by a teenage mom, probably not have a father figure in his or her life, and more than likely will live a life close to or in poverty. More than likely the mother will be immature and not ready to properly care for the child. More than likely, the child will have emotional, behavioral, and social issues. To top it off...these kids, more than likely (in some way shape or form) will affect the lives of my kids adversely, and kids of other parents who want to raise their kids the right way.

Thats whats f!@#in wrong with it.
Abstinence only education has been shown, study after study, to be a heap of fail when compared with education that includes abstinence and safe sex issues. The school is doing nothing more than fulfilling it's moral obligation to the students.
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The number of teenage pregnancy's that will eventually result from such a policy. Giving out birth control and other services in this manner, and at this age indirectly helps to "mainstream" sex overall at a younger age.

Then...(IF the "mother" doesn't abort the baby) the kid will probably be raised by a teenage mom, probably not have a father figure in his or her life, and more than likely will live a life close to or in poverty. More than likely the mother will be immature and not ready to properly care for the child. More than likely, the child will have emotional, behavioral, and social issues. To top it off...these kids, more than likely (in some way shape or form) will affect the lives of my kids adversely, and kids of other parents who want to raise their kids the right way.

Thats whats f!@#in wrong with it.
in all honesty, i am still on the fence about the issue. but you state that by handing out birth control indirectly helps to mainstream sex. don't you think that sex has already been "mainstreamed", thus the reaction of handing out birth control by the school board.

children (and everyone else) are bombarded with sex in everyday media, but never bombarded with birth control in the media. i am not saying there are no safe sex ads, or birth control ads, but some kid watching some reality show on tv where sexual situations are more than just undertones will probably not be paying attention when a safe sex ad comes on. and if so, how is a 30 second spot going to compete with nearly a half hour spot.
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Reading the article I see the subject the school is addressing strongly right now isn't even the subject of "safe sex". It's purely teen pregnancy. They want to offer birth control pills or birth control patches, neither will prevent STDs. They have been offering condoms since 2000 for the safe sex platform.

If a school is going to push for contraception I think they need to put as much of a priority on preventing STDs as preventing pregnancy. I guess their condom campaign hasn't worked if their teen pregnancy rate is so high. I'd hate to know their Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, herpes, HIV, and PID rates.

It's kind of scary. I'm glad I don't have middle school aged kids because I think I'd be freaking out if my 11 year old was having sex.
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Abstinence only education has been shown, study after study, to be a heap of fail when compared with education that includes abstinence and safe sex issues. The school is doing nothing more than fulfilling it's moral obligation to the students.

When did we pass the moral obligation to them? It's OUR (parents) moral obligation to do what is right for our kids.

Edit: I have two girls (8 years and 12 years old). This kind of crap scares me.
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There's this thing called parents. EDIT> Actually there USED TO BE this thing called parents. Aren't many of us left.

Did you know that in California they passed a bill to call us: Parent 1 and Parent 2 in school. So not to offend anyone. What in God's good name is going on here people?

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Its been on the news here for a few days. I think the next step is Kindergarten.
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As I posted down in p&r is that too many parents aren't teaching their kids to be smart about sex. So believe it or not there's a shocking number of young kids screwing around. If they're going to do it, I think it's in society's interest to make sure they don't get pregnant.
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Yeah, i think the point is getting missed. We are talking MIDDLE SCHOOL here people. That is 6th grade where I live. We all know what can happen in High School and the sex ed in high school is debatable. But how can anyone debate middle school aged kids having SEX?


First of all most of them aren't even CAPABLE of reproducing at this age, at least the boys aren't. Next, where do they have sex? They shouldn't have the oppurtunity at that age to even do it. Again, it's a parents responsibility to supervise their kids and make sure they are safe at this age.
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Amen to that. I raised three kids. NO drugs, NO sex and good moral kids.

Not like when I was a kid, sex, drugs and the law. Oops now you know. I straighten myself out before hitting adulthood.
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in all honesty, i am still on the fence about the issue. but you state that by handing out birth control indirectly helps to mainstream sex. don't you think that sex has already been "mainstreamed", thus the reaction of handing out birth control by the school board.

children (and everyone else) are bombarded with sex in everyday media, but never bombarded with birth control in the media. i am not saying there are no safe sex ads, or birth control ads, but some kid watching some reality show on tv where sexual situations are more than just undertones will probably not be paying attention when a safe sex ad comes on. and if so, how is a 30 second spot going to compete with nearly a half hour spot.
My premise is that the school board is enabling the culture driven notion of sex w/o responsibility.

Sex w/o responsibility results in bad things for adults...how is it any better for kids that aren't old enough to have a drivers license?

And as for "media bombardment"...idiot parents shouldn't be allowing little Johnny or little Jane to watch that kind of content on tv anyway; they're kids...they're not adults. And kids shouldn't be learning about sex or abstinence on tv anyway...as others with kids have stated...thats the parents job.
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Kids are gunna screw. Might as well not get pregnant while they're at it.

What can you do.
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Neither do I, but you know what? It's happening despite all the abstinence training and preaching.

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It's not the school's job (nor the government's job, generally) to deal with the problem, just because they happen to have custody of the children for a portion of each school day. The kids are their parents' children, not the government's custodians. Whether or not the parents are doing an adequate job does not entitle the government to step in. The only thing the school needs to be concerned with in regard to the sexual proclivity of their students is to ensure they are not having sex while at school.
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What about the homeshcoolers? What are they going to do?

And on a serious note, 11 is too young to have sex. Seems like they are enabling the kids just a bit.
Our culture is enabling them. With every Paris Hilton, Tommy Lee, Calvin Klein display that has our country overly fascinated by sex. Facing this reality with tools to avoid the obvious outcome is not enabling. It is facing reality.

You want to keep your kids from having sex, don't leave it up to someone else to educate them. I see it more of a breakdown at the family level than anything else.
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