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    TV Show Piracy, dilema

    I am a big believer in objective piracy. Essentially I will pirate anything, using it, however, if I find it useful and worth money I will purchase it. Music, movies or otherwise. I have been doing this for a couple of decades and please, I don't feel like discussing the companies rights, informational ownership or anything else. I do this with a clean heart as I don't believe you should buy anything before trying it. Every company should offer trialware (and most do now...)

    That said, a lot of shows I watch now are shows I can't even get in canada. Showtime and HBO have made some incredible series over the last few years, which I can't watch "legally"...I also don't believe in buying dvd's of tv shows (sorry but thats just bull****, I don't want extras or fluff or corporate commercials, if I like a show I pvr it or keep it on tape, hence the dilema) Is my only way to "make it right" to buy dvd haha...or is this my way of telling the companies to get their channels up here

    btw, I have emailed both companies explaining how great their shows are and that they have an audience in canada, hint hint...

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    I'm leaning more and more towards that. Many of the DVDs I've bought of shows have forced commercials at the beginning - I'm PAYING for the show so I don't have to be subjected to this crap. Stupid, stupid people...

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    In my case, I just don't watch much TV.
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    I don't know if the same is true in Canada, but a lot of box sets here come way down in price if you wait a while. While they were US$80-100 when new, I ended up picking up the box sets of The X-Files for about $17.99 each. Maybe still more than you're willing to spend, but it was fair to me, and well worth having everything available in a convenient and (more importantly) commercial-free format.

    That said, I've never bothered with anything HBO or Showtime have to offer, so they may be harder to find at a lower price.

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    I download stuff that I can't get on TV. Cycling stuff, anime tv series, Corner Gas, etc.

    If I can find stuff locally on DVD, I'll always get DVD.

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    I try to pay when I can. I don't think it's right for me to steal it when I can afford it. That being said, I still download Heroes from Limewire because I can't buy that. I pay for two series on itunes but Heroes isn't offered. I don't feel too bad about "stealing" Heroes because if I was in the US I could watch it on the network website for free anyway and I'm not selling or distributing it.
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    Weeds is a good show of Showtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakeNbake View Post
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    Really? People watch that show outside of Saskatchewan? The cast hangs out in the pub i go to all the time, never talk to them though. Brent Butt is a funny dude though.

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    I pirate media all the time. If I like something I'll buy a T-Shirt or some other merchandise to support production. If It's a musician, I'll pay for a ticket to see their show.

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    I sure wouldn't be discussing whether or not I Pirate something on a forum that is google searchable. Especially given recent litigation against poor schlubs that have been caught with pirated music on their hard drives.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I sure wouldn't be discussing whether or not I Pirate something on a forum that is google searchable. Especially given recent litigation against poor schlubs that have been caught with pirated music on their hard drives.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    I am a big believer in objective piracy. Essentially I will pirate anything, using it, however, if I find it useful and worth money I will purchase it. Music, movies or otherwise. I have been doing this for a couple of decades and please, I don't feel like discussing the companies rights, informational ownership or anything else. I do this with a clean heart as I don't believe you should buy anything before trying it. Every company should offer trialware (and most do now...)

    That said, a lot of shows I watch now are shows I can't even get in canada. Showtime and HBO have made some incredible series over the last few years, which I can't watch "legally"...I also don't believe in buying dvd's of tv shows (sorry but thats just bull****, I don't want extras or fluff or corporate commercials, if I like a show I pvr it or keep it on tape, hence the dilema) Is my only way to "make it right" to buy dvd haha...or is this my way of telling the companies to get their channels up here

    btw, I have emailed both companies explaining how great their shows are and that they have an audience in canada, hint hint...
    No Netflix in Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    Is my only way to "make it right" to buy dvd haha...or is this my way of telling the companies to get their channels up here
    Sounds like you've rationalized your way to a solution. Apparently, as long as it doesn't interfere with your doing whatever you want to do, you have no problem with intellectual property rights. The distributor holds the rights to the product. If they want to do something as dumb as not giving you a chance to try it before you buy it or not taking advantage of a potential market (and you really don't know what goes into that decision), well, that's their problem, but it still doesn't justify your approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001 View Post
    If It's a musician, I'll pay for a ticket to see their show.
    I have this great hope that the current state of piracy will force musicians to actually tour to earn money. They certainly aren't getting rich off CD sales.
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    If i can find a DVD for an anime movie/show i'm interested in, i'll buy it. If it's one i can't buy, well, i've got other ways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ123 View Post
    Weeds is a good show of Showtime.
    Dexter is killer, literally I also liked Rome, weeds and many others that I currently forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
    I sure wouldn't be discussing whether or not I Pirate something on a forum that is google searchable. Especially given recent litigation against poor schlubs that have been caught with pirated music on their hard drives.....
    I'm in canada, most of those laws don't apply and our legal system takes a decent stance against music piracy, the pervs and murderers get all their attention . And luckily, the disclaimer I wrote doesn't apply to what I actually have on my pc's. Like I said, I purchase everything I use. I just want to find a way to watch shows like Dexter, which are currently playing live in the states, but can't due to coverage in canada (actually might just be my area, depends on who provides cable for the area you live in, maybe those people in ontario get good shows haha).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebottle1 View Post
    Sounds like you've rationalized your way to a solution. Apparently, as long as it doesn't interfere with your doing whatever you want to do, you have no problem with intellectual property rights. The distributor holds the rights to the product. If they want to do something as dumb as not giving you a chance to try it before you buy it or not taking advantage of a potential market (and you really don't know what goes into that decision), well, that's their problem, but it still doesn't justify your approach.
    Didn't feel like reading the whole thing, thats ok, I know it can be difficult sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free_pizza View Post
    Really? People watch that show outside of Saskatchewan? The cast hangs out in the pub i go to all the time, never talk to them though. Brent Butt is a funny dude though.
    can't stand the show myself, but it is hugely popular for everyone. So yes, people watch outside the flatlands

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    In my case, I just don't watch much TV.
    Me neither. I like the shows that my friends and family recommend. Most of them just happen to enjoy the shows we can't get either. I can't even sit through regular tv now.

    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyone
    No Netflix in Canada?
    Not available in my area, I don't think it is netflix either, some other name, but it doesn't have near the coverage or, apparently, the scope here. I have read about it online periodically but canadians just aren't as interested in the scope of online sales as the states, I forget that stats but in general even online sales are weak up here. Hence why there are no great online stores except futureshop and big chains.

    Besides I am looking to watch shows currently being shown, not old shows, I have purchased the old shows I liked already (Oz etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnyone View Post
    No Netflix in Canada?
    Of course they do! They call it "hockey."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom View Post
    Didn't feel like reading the whole thing, thats ok, I know it can be difficult sometimes.
    Uh, no. What you said essentially is that unless you are intending to watch or listen to something repeatedly, you feel you have no need to pay for it and can pirate it shamelessly. That's not the way it works.
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    Until the writer's strike is over in the US, I have no issue with pirating shows. Pirating music depends on the band and the company representing them to me. Pirating movies, well, I'm a sucker for quality, so I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebottle1 View Post
    Uh, no. What you said essentially is that unless you are intending to watch or listen to something repeatedly, you feel you have no need to pay for it and can pirate it shamelessly. That's not the way it works.
    <<cough cough>>libraries<<cough>>fair use doctrine<<sniff>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doolally View Post
    <<cough cough>>libraries<<cough>>fair use doctrine<<sniff>>
    <<cough, cough>> libraries pay for their selections <<cough>> fair use inapplicable
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