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    Jingle Bells

    Why is "Jingle Bells" considered a Christmas carol? It doesn't mention Christmas. "Frosty the Snowman"? No Christmas there. "Let It Snow", "Winter Wonderland", "Sleigh Ride", and "Good King Wenceslaus." No mention of Christmas.

    How did they become Christmas carols. And who is this Carol they speak of?
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    Because just like they commercialize Christmas by turning it from one day into an entire season. They steal any song or theme that is "winter" related and claim it for Christmas. That's why we now have the "winter holidays".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    Why is "Jingle Bells" considered a Christmas carol? It doesn't mention Christmas. "Frosty the Snowman"? No Christmas there. "Let It Snow", "Winter Wonderland", "Sleigh Ride", and "Good King Wenceslaus." No mention of Christmas.

    How did they become Christmas carols. And who is this Carol they speak of?
    He "looked out on the feast of Stephen", St. Stephen. St. Stephen day is 12/26. It's close enough when the celebrated was born in the spring. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just figure out why.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Stephen's_Day

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    One of our local radio stations is playing only Christmas songs right now. They've been playing "My Favorite Things" from the Sound Of Music. Since when does that have anything to do with Christmas?

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    My detailed research (Wiki) shows that the song Jingle Bells was originally written as a Thanksgiving Song by a priest, but proved to be so popular that it was repeated at the church's Christmas program and soon became coopted as part of the Christmas holidays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBent View Post
    One of our local radio stations is playing only Christmas songs right now. They've been playing "My Favorite Things" from the Sound Of Music. Since when does that have anything to do with Christmas?
    Hah... I have THAT answer too!

    ""When the frost bites." is the connective line from that song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    Hah... I have THAT answer too!

    ""When the frost bites." is the connective line from that song.
    And now...another song STOLEN for Christmas.
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    and can someone explain why Jehovah's Witnesses can't sing or play any of these non-Christmas songs?
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    Christmas, the black hole created when retailers divide using red ink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    and can someone explain why Jehovah's Witnesses can't sing or play any of these non-Christmas songs?
    I could tell you, but I was sworn to secrecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    and can someone explain why Jehovah's Witness can't sing or play any of these non-Christmas songs?
    IIRC from my limited involvement, singing is verboten. Nothing should be celebrated for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    IIRC from my limited involvement, singing is verboten. Nothing should be celebrated for some reason.
    Obviously, Stacey didn't swear
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    And Jseis said, "Let him that isn't stoned commit the first sin."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    Christmas, the black hole created when retailers divide using red ink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    and can someone explain why Jehovah's Witnesses can't sing or play any of these non-Christmas songs?
    Who says they can't if they are non-Christmas songs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trsidn View Post
    Obviously, Stacey didn't swear
    They said we couldn't swear. You go to hell if you swear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trsidn View Post
    Obviously, Stacey didn't swear
    Actually she did swear, she called a higher up an arsehole, and was booted out of the JW's!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Actually she did swear, she called a higher up an arsehole, and was booted out of the JW's!
    I once debated some who came to my door so effectively they asked if they could come back with one of their "elders" to "answer my questions". I told them to go for it, but they never came back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    I once debated some who came to my door so effectively they asked if they could come back with one of their "elders" to "answer my questions". I told them to go for it, but they never came back.

    I gave them more "pamphlets" than they gave me.
    I answered the door while cleaning a shotgun once. They never came back.

    Wait. Those were Mormons. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    Who says they can't if they are non-Christmas songs?
    I've been around plenty of JW's and they always refuse to play or sing any of these but they can sing and play secular music. Jingle Bells, Frosty etc. seem like secular songs to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    I've been around plenty of JW's and they always refuse to play or sing any of these but they can sing and play secular music. Jingle Bells, Frosty etc. seem like secular songs to me.
    Surely it has to do with the fact they don't celebrate Christmas (or any other holiday). I used to work with a JW years ago. All I could ever get from him as an explanation to why they don't celebrate holidays was "Jesus never said to celebrate them in the bible".

    I naturally responsed with "Jesus didn't tell you to make sure your kids to their homework either, but do you?". He wouldn't take the bait and debate the logic of it.
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    What I don't understand is the point brought up in the thread. Do JW's have something against snow? Or snowmen? Or they somehow connect Frosty with Christmas? Or Sleigh Ride. What's wrong with Sleigh Ride?

    You're right KT, there appears to be no logic to it.

    They can't do patriotic stuff as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
    What I don't understand is the point brought up in the thread. Do JW's have something against snow? Or snowmen? Or they somehow connect Frosty with Christmas? Or Sleigh Ride. What's wrong with Sleigh Ride?

    You're right KT, there appears to be no logic to it.

    They can't do patriotic stuff as well.


    WHAT??? I never heard of that!! Why not?

    I used to work with a woman who told me that she wouldn't take her 5 year old son out shopping during the Holidays because it was unfair to him. He would feel left out of the festivities. She didn't want him to see all the decorations, the people wearing Santa hats and the general cheer around this time of year. Poor kid. She must have kept him locked in his room.

    She also told me that although we work together, she didn't want to be pals outside of work because I wasn't JW. And she was breaking some sort of rule by associating with me.
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    incorrect

    here are the lyrics to jingle bells
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    jingle bells
    santa smells
    robin laid an egg
    batmobile lost a wheel
    and joker got away
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    clearly, the santa reference indicates christmas

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