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    nascar and bicycle madison/points race

    Why is one so popular and the other...?

    As far as I can tell they're effectively the same aren't they. Oval track, timed race, most laps/points wins, restricted equipment/fuel, extra points at certain stages for position across the line, etc.

    Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?
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    NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.
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    One is a real sport and one is WWF Wrestling on wheels.
    This is Amerikka where hunting and poker are called sports, too.
    Still dont get it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?
    If you don't understand NASCAR, you might think that nothing is happening. It's just like bicycle racing and soccer: if you don't understand the nuances, you won't be entertained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    If you don't understand NASCAR, you might think that nothing is happening. It's just like bicycle racing and soccer: if you don't understand the nuances, you won't be entertained.
    um..ok...nuances to drive fast, turn left, drive fast, turn left. Oh crap...hit car in front and go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    um..ok...nuances to drive fast, turn left, drive fast, turn left. Oh crap...hit car in front and go home.
    Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
    http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/reve...egy-306654.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
    http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/reve...egy-306654.php
    I'm just messing with you....all sports have their nuances that only a fan would know about.
    I'm just not a big fan of any automotive sports, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    I'm just messing with you....all sports have their nuances that only a fan would know about.
    I'm just not a big fan of any automotive sports, but that's just me.
    Did you watch the video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    Did you watch the video?
    Can't....work blocks videos.

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    Nascar is also well funded/sponsored ... madison races are not.
    I'm in it to finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spingineer View Post
    Nascar is also well funded/sponsored ... madison races are not.
    In Europe madison's are immensely popular-- enough so that they can build a really nice track for a six-day event and then cut it up with chainsaws at the end and still make money.

    I can't find the link, but a guy posted a pick about a year ago of the wrecking crew cutting out one of the distance marks (the 60 m mark, I think) and giving it to him as they were tearing down the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    NASCAR vehicles make a much larger mess when there's a crash.
    NASCAR racing is noisy. There's lots of drinking.

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    Madison (Dolly) is not popular in Nascar, but Debbie (Little) is. just saying
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    Isn't that a little hard on the velodrome track?
    I'm in it to finish it.

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    well thanks for the replies folks - so, as far as the general details go, the only major difference is the engine?

    They're both just an excuse to hang out and drink with your buddies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spingineer View Post
    Isn't that a little hard on the velodrome track?
    What does it matter? Sounds like they cut the things apart with chainsaws after the race. Maybe they should race these instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    They're both just an excuse to hang out and drink with your buddies?
    Check out botto's thread about the Amsterdam 6 Days. I think he did the whole hanging out and drinking with buddies. The thread talks quite a bit about drinking.

    We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97 View Post
    We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.
    That would be a culture shock for both Botto and the race fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    Why is one so popular and the other...?

    As far as I can tell they're effectively the same aren't they. Oval track, timed race, most laps/points wins, restricted equipment/fuel, extra points at certain stages for position across the line, etc.

    Nascar just seems like a 5 hour endurance race with not a lot happening or is that the point?
    If you every get the chance to go to a race rent or take a scanner with you. You would be surprised on how much is going on. Nascar races are not timed races, they race until completion, X amount of miles has been reached. The fact that the races are so long allows for more strategy then just putting your for and gas. For example they will run with different set ups in the car in different periods of the race to keep up with track conditions and temps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
    http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/reve...egy-306654.php

    That's funny video, here is another good one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcx1RHmexDM
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    Quote Originally Posted by hos13 View Post
    That's funny video, here is another good one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcx1RHmexDM
    Now, if any of you sophisticated urban types would like, I can explain the jokes in the video that you don't (or won't admit to) get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker View Post
    Now, there you go proving my point. For a tutorial on NASCAR strategy, view this video:
    http://jalopnik.com/cars/racing/reve...egy-306654.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97 View Post
    Check out botto's thread about the Amsterdam 6 Days. I think he did the whole hanging out and drinking with buddies. The thread talks quite a bit about drinking.

    We can't wait to kidnap botto and take him to Bristol for the Food City 500.
    that's what you do when you go to the 6 days.

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    You need to know when to hold back, and when to push it.
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