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Old 12-18-07, 06:09 AM   #1
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Anybody know why itunes, etc., have to download track names?

When I stick a music CD in my DVD player, it just reads artist and titles from the disk. My computer disk reader/writer probably has as much or more functionality.

Just curious... it's a pet peeve. Plus, Gracenote information is wrong too often.
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Old 12-18-07, 01:53 PM   #3
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WMP downloads the cover artwork for your albums. What's the big deal?
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When I stick a music CD in my DVD player, it just reads artist and titles from the disk. My computer disk reader/writer probably has as much or more functionality.

Just curious... it's a pet peeve. Plus, Gracenote information is wrong too often.
Of course it is, gracenote information is user-submitted.

I've added indexes for at least 20 CDs by now...but if mine are wrong, it's in very minor ways, usually teh instead of the or something lame like that.
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It beats the hell out of entering the data yourself.
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Funny, Stacey didn't read the thread title, trsidn didn't read the message body.

No big deal... just if it's on the disk, and the stuff that's on the disk is *correct*, why not? Downloading the cover art is good, but on my collection Gracenote doesn't have about a 1/3 of it. Besides, WMP uses the, whatzit, BMG database which I've never known to be wrong.
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What is this 'read' of which you speak?

I don't know about iTunes, but in WinMP I can opt out of that download stuff.
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No big deal... just if it's on the disk, and the stuff that's on the disk is *correct*, why not?
Depends upon the disc. Only some of the newer CDs stores the artist and titles on the disc and this isn't actually part of the CD-audio standard. It's only used on a later CD-text standard (1996) and only some CD-players will look for that info in the lead-in area. Online databases require a computed ID number based upon number of tracks, their run-times and order. This ID is then what the software/player then refers to online to get the artist & title info. That's why if you look at the directory listing of a CD in Explorer, it'll only show track1, track2, track3, etc. The artist and titles are extra info that may or may not be on any particular disc.

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I don't know about iTunes, but in WinMP I can opt out of that download stuff.
Yeah, iTunes has a preferences option where you can turn off the online downloading of CD info.

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I don't know about iTunes, but in WinMP I can opt out of that download stuff.
K, I'll bite. How *do* you get your titles, etc? Or you just don't rip disks?
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I rip discs, but I don't use a portable player so it's not much of a concern for me. I just deal with folders and file names.

I haven't used the feature but I believe that Zortam MP3 Media studio has a feature that will let you edit the tags that appear in portable media player screens. You can find both the free & pro download at www.zortam.com
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