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Old 01-07-08, 04:36 PM   #1
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Anyone watching the Clemens press confrence?

This is getting crazy personal...
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Who/what is Clemens ?
Follow it or not, i have a very hard time believing you're clueless...
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As in Roger?
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Follow it or not, i have a very hard time believing you're clueless...
Kind of rude, I betcha I could ask my fiance the exact question your phrased and she wouldn't have a clue. She hates baseball as much as me and tracks it less than I do. Hell I could call my cousin and ask him and I would get the same reaction (now ask him who won the last round between gsp and hughes and he would be able to recite every great move done in the fight). Please don't believe baseball or baseball players are known to everyone.

I just happen to have been watching one of the football games yesterday and caught wind of the interview. I will likely keep my eye out on tv tonight so I can hear some sob story about this or that, and steroid this and that. Its unfortunate, when i loved baseball, clemens was one of my favorites. To bad my love for the game was forever destroyed during the 90's strike.
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Why? It's only baseball.
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Ain't that a college down in South Carolina somewhere?

No, timmyquest, I didn't catch the presser. It all sounds too familiar, ala dopers.
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But Roger's an All-American kind of guy
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Kind of rude, I betcha I could ask my fiance the exact question your phrased and she wouldn't have a clue. She hates baseball as much as me and tracks it less than I do. Hell I could call my cousin and ask him and I would get the same reaction (now ask him who won the last round between gsp and hughes and he would be able to recite every great move done in the fight). Please don't believe baseball or baseball players are known to everyone.

I just happen to have been watching one of the football games yesterday and caught wind of the interview. I will likely keep my eye out on tv tonight so I can hear some sob story about this or that, and steroid this and that. Its unfortunate, when i loved baseball, clemens was one of my favorites. To bad my love for the game was forever destroyed during the 90's strike.
This has been on just about every news outlet i've seen, so either you don't watch the news or you have very selective attention if you don't know what's going on recently.
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This has been on just about every news outlet i've seen, so either you don't watch the news or you have very selective attention if you don't know what's going on recently.
Not up here, but then again, in the states it might be all over the place.

And generally, I watch the news until sports comes on. Then i flip. I imagine since this is clemens they are putting it near or in the sports section of news...so yes, I suppose I do have selective attention, probably the reason I built a PVR. So I didn't have to watch stuff I didn't care about...

so curious, do you believe him? I didn't see the interview, but thanks to this thread I did a little searching to find the gist.
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But Roger's an All-American kind of guy
Roger Clemens - the second biggest panty-waist 300 game winner (after Don Sutton) and soon to be a panty-waist Hall of Famer.

Yes, he has phenominal numbers, and should be in the Hall for that reason. But he has never - and I am including his Yankee years - been a big-game pitcher. He struck out 19 Seattle Mariners when the Mariniers would have had trouble beating most AAA teams, but routinely lay down like a beaten dog when the heat was truly on. How many times did he lose big games just against Dave Stewart, including that spectacular melt-down to get thrown out of the game (!) in the play-offs? And that is not the end of the story; the guy's post-season record is a testimonial to wins when the pressure is fairly low and losses almost every time the weight is on him.

He is also a panty-waist because he would pull all kinds of Mr. Nasty head-hunting stunts knowing full well that, as an American League pitcher, he would never have to face the music by coming to the plate himself. His series of at-bats against Mike Piazza, culminating with throwing a piece of a broken bat at him, should have landed Clemens with a 50 game suspension for putting such an incredibly explicit exclamation mark on a career of being a bully who cowers when called out.

Anyone want Clemens for a big, gotta-have-it game? Fine, you can have him and his 300+ mainly meaningless wins. I'll take any one of Catfish Hunter, or Dave Stewart, or Jack Morris, or Orel Hershiser (ugh, it hurts to write that last one) - your pick - and my team will win because my pitcher will know how to handle the pressure, and Clemens will fold like a cheap Wal-Mart lawn chair.
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Roger Clemens - the second biggest panty-waist 300 game winner (after Don Sutton) and soon to be a panty-waist Hall of Famer.

Yes, he has phenominal numbers, and should be in the Hall for that reason. But he has never - and I am including his Yankee years - been a big-game pitcher. He struck out 19 Seattle Mariners when the Mariniers would have had trouble beating most AAA teams, but routinely lay down like a beaten dog when the heat was truly on. How many times did he lose big games just against Dave Stewart, including that spectacular melt-down to get thrown out of the game (!) in the play-offs? And that is not the end of the story; the guy's post-season record is a testimonial to wins when the pressure is fairly low and losses almost every time the weight is on him.

He is also a panty-waist because he would pull all kinds of Mr. Nasty head-hunting stunts knowing full well that, as an American League pitcher, he would never have to face the music by coming to the plate himself. His series of at-bats against Mike Piazza, culminating with throwing a piece of a broken bat at him, should have landed Clemens with a 50 game suspension for putting such an incredibly explicit exclamation mark on a career of being a bully who cowers when called out.

Anyone want Clemens for a big, gotta-have-it game? Fine, you can have him and his 300+ mainly meaningless wins. I'll take any one of Catfish Hunter, or Dave Stewart, or Jack Morris, or Orel Hershiser (ugh, it hurts to write that last one) - your pick - and my team will win because my pitcher will know how to handle the pressure, and Clemens will fold like a cheap Wal-Mart lawn chair.
Thats funny, thats exactly how I feel about mat sundin on the maple laughs. Damn you brought back some memories though. Dave Stewart and jack morris were clutch...
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Follow it or not, i have a very hard time believing you're clueless...

Believe it.

If its sports, I know the Eagles are Philly's football team. Thats it. Really.
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Therein lies the problem...
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More telling than his 60 minutes interview or the press conference tidbits on TV, was the 17 minute phone call I heard tonight from last Friday between him and his accuser. That is some very weird and interesting stuff. I'm on the fence as to whether he is guilty or innocent. But ultimately....I don't really car that much. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars from baseball...hard to feel sorry for him either way in my book.
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Jack Morris
I'm proud to call him a former high school basketball team mate.

He was clutch all right!
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looked on CNN "international" on the world sport page, and never saw anything about the Canadian Junior hockey team winning the world championships... IMO thats a much bigger story that some bozo that may or may not have taken steroids...
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I cannot think of anything more ponderous than Tv sports. Nothing....
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Wow!

Let me guess! You also don't own a TV set, right?
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looked on CNN "international" on the world sport page, and never saw anything about the Canadian Junior hockey team winning the world championships... IMO thats a much bigger story that some bozo that may or may not have taken steroids...

You think that Canadian sports news is bigger to an American news outlet than the possibility of one of the greatest careers of one of the most important positions on the field of America's sport being illegitimate?

I'm not sure about that logic. But we digress...
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You think that Canadian sports news is bigger to an American news outlet than the possibility of one of the greatest careers of one of the most important positions on the field of America's sport being illegitimate?

I'm not sure about that logic. But we digress...
That sounds like Canadian logic to me.
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Roger Clemens - the second biggest panty-waist 300 game winner (after Don Sutton) and soon to be a panty-waist Hall of Famer.

Yes, he has phenominal numbers, and should be in the Hall for that reason. But he has never - and I am including his Yankee years - been a big-game pitcher. He struck out 19 Seattle Mariners when the Mariniers would have had trouble beating most AAA teams....
Just so you know, it was a 20 strikeout game(and he's got 2 of 'em).
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I did not see the press conference, I heard it was interesting to say the least. It will even more interesting to when he and trainer face congress in a week or so.
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This has been on just about every news outlet i've seen, so either you don't watch the news or you have very selective attention if you don't know what's going on recently.
outside of the US, US news rarely gets around. when I was in Europe, no one gave a ****
about anything going on in the USA. same when I spent 8 weeks in BC. not one article about
anything in the USA except Bush policies and the stock market.
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They are getting desperate to try and clear his name. Of course I thought the tape phone converation with the trainer made him sound guilty.
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