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Old 01-14-08, 06:29 AM   #1
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Windows Weenies: Don't Look Back, Someone May Be Gaining on You

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>>Apple's share of the US domestic PC market has moved up steadily from 6.8% in November, 7.3% in December and as high as 8% in the days after the holiday shopping season, according to NetApplications, which tracks browsers and operating system<<

At that rate Apple will have 100% of the domestic market within ten years.

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Old 01-14-08, 06:35 AM   #2
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Being despised by Windows Idiots is its own reward. I will PM all of you when Apple revenues surpass those of Microsoft sometime between 2012 and 2014. Stay tuned. Actually by then my Apple stock should be $800+ per share, and I'll hire some Windows sap to notify you for me.
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Does this mean hackers will start targeting Macs?
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If you remember, Bill Gates dumped a ton on money into Apple so he wouldn't
face anti-trust suits....

I like Apple. They make great stuff.

Different strokes for different folks. The game I am playing now is Crysis. Apple
doesn't do DX10. In fact, while Apple gets a lot of press for innovating, most of the innovation comes out of the open platform world which is dominated by Windows. Saw a review yesterday comparing an Apple and Dell LCD monitor. Both had the exact same video device. There were some differences in the electronics controlling it and in the software.

The Apple was a little nicer, but the Dell cost about half as much.

C'est la vie...
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From TheStreet.com:

>>Apple's share of the US domestic PC market has moved up steadily from 6.8% in November, 7.3% in December and as high as 8% in the days after the holiday shopping season, according to NetApplications, which tracks browsers and operating system<<

At that rate Apple will have 100% of the domestic market within ten years.

I love it.
Given that they had the same market share 12 years ago as they do now, your predictions seem like a no brainer. There's absolutely no way that any of this recent meteoric rise has anything to do with the iPhone or iPod, so I'm sure the business world will switch over shortly.

Hopefully, by that time they take over, they will be issuing mice with two buttons standard. Also, since supply and demand already has mac hardware overpriced, maybe there will be more than one company that you'll be able to get it from.

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Here we go, another Mac stoner, declaring victory from the lofty perspective of a single-digit market share.
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Old 01-14-08, 09:07 AM   #8
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I think maybe they already have. My daughter inserted a music CD a friend had made into her Mac and the machine turned into a snail.

So much so that we took it to an Apple store. After a week they returned it to us in worse shape. We ended up having to reload the OS and losing all her info. The machine would only lock up when we tried to use the recovery mode.

So they ain't perfect. But I have nothing against Apple. I used an Apple II in the early 80's, and was it a Lisa?, maybe it was the very first Mac version, back around '84.
So in 10 years, all Macs will have going for them is a cute GUI. Somehow I think market domination is a long ways off...
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a single-digit market share.
Single digit market share = Maximum Blue Sky.
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... Also, since supply and demand already has mac hardware overpriced, maybe there will be more than one company that you'll be able to get it from.
That there is the key. Apple seems intent on following the Bose business model - which is to make cool stuff, and market it to the suckers who don't mind paying twice what it ought to cost. That model needs to be modified, or 15% market share will never happen.
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Here we go, another Mac stoner, declaring victory from the lofty perspective of a single-digit market share.
Hey, don't knock it. It only took them 32 years to achieve that position where Microsoft had the benefit of jumping in the market a year earlier. The momentum is obvious.
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Eh. I'm sure Apple is doing a lot better than it was a few years ago, sales wise, but "market share" has always been a BS-y, hand-wavy statistic when it comes to comparing Macs and Windows PCs. (And I don't say this from a position of Windows fandom. I can't stand Windows.) Installed base would be a much more useful statistic, but it's difficult/impossible to come up with an accurate number.
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From TheStreet.com:

>>Apple's share of the US domestic PC market has moved up steadily from 6.8% in November, 7.3% in December and as high as 8% in the days after the holiday shopping season, according to NetApplications, which tracks browsers and operating system<<

At that rate Apple will have 100% of the domestic market within ten years.

I love it.
.5% in one month, .7% the next. Let's take that as an average of .6% growth per month. I'll take the assumption that its steady growth, though there is no evidence.


.6% x 12 months = 7.2% per year
7.2% x 10 years = 100% ???????

Is that Apple math?
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No offense Pcad, but it's more likely that MAC/Apple will NEVER have the majority of market share, let alone 100%. People generally seem to overlook the possibility of some other (maybe as yet unknown) OS coming along at just the right junction of time & technology and taking the world by storm. Who knows. I find it hard to believe that MAC will ever have the largest market share and 100% is a whimsical pipe dream IMO.
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Heh. I love Maddox.

I'm in the "use whatever computer you want" camp, but I hate the fanboys. Heck, I programmed NeXT computers over a decade ago and swore I'd never go back to Windows. That was one nice OS, even by today's standards. (Steve Jobs's company if you didnt know.) Then I switched jobs.

I've used every version of Windows except ME and Vista. Never had any problems with any of them, and I beat the $(!*& out of my computers, application-wise.

Our Vista Home Premium Edition-equipped XPS M1530 arrives on Thursday. Maybe I'll change my mind after that.
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People generally seem to overlook the possibility of some other (maybe as yet unknown) OS coming along at just the right junction of time & technology and taking the world by storm.
They also overlook the fact that most people don't give a damn nor should they about OS wars, browser wars, or any ideological battles. They'll buy stuff if it does what they want and the price is right.

I'd buy an iPhone myself except you're locked into an expensive contract (prices range from $720 to over $2400/yr and only includes 200 SMS messages) with ATT which has not faired well in customer satisfaction in recent years. In addition I really wasn't impressed with that trick Apple pulled a few months back that purposely wrecked all the phones that had outside software installed on them.

If you look past some of the idiotic "function follows form" things Apple does to make their computers different rather than better, they make some decent stuff. However, it's locked up and overpriced much worse than M$.
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Heh. I love Maddox.


Our Vista Home Premium Edition-equipped XPS M1530 arrives on Thursday. Maybe I'll change my mind after that.
I think you'll like your M1530. I was originally after a 15" MBP, but chose Dell XPS M1330 for 3 reasons:
1. Runs Windows, so runs all my stuff.
2. Wanted 13" laptop, MBP currently doesn't come in 13" size (might change this week with rumoured ultra portable Mac).
3. The Dell's a very attractive looking computer.

Downsides: Vista is ok for the 'surface' stuff, but after using it for a few weeks (ie, after I've moved most of my apps to it), it seems slow. Cant wait for SP1.

TIP FOR YOUR M1530: DONT EJECT THE DVD DRIVE UNTIL THE MACHINE HAS SETTLED DOWN (after a login for example) OR IT'LL FREEZE.
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Pcad, perhaps you can convince Steve Jobs to HTFU and release a 12.1" widescreen Macbook Pro with an integrated optical drive. I hate the keyboards on the white/black Macbooks and they have not had a 12" size under the top tier for a few years now.
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Our Vista Home Premium Edition-equipped XPS M1530 arrives on Thursday. Maybe I'll change my mind after that.
I'm running Vista Home Premium on an HP Pavillion Elite, and the only issue I've encountered is a Media Center glitch with some InterActive Media enabled DVDs. Media Center doesn't like to bypass the interactive features and just play the movie, and I don't feel like installing InterActive's application on my machine.
Outside of that, everything has been running really well. I think you'll like it, once you get past the Vista learning curve. Visually it's very pretty, but when you're used to XP it's a pretty big change to make. Locations and names for familiar applications are not the same. If you're using a wide-aspect monitor, the dashboard widgets are nice to have. (totally unnecessary, but nice.)
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How about 110% by 2020? That works.
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You should have left that post up mlts22. I agree with you completely. Every single point I would have posted but just don't have the time. Especially the point about viruses etc.

In short, Mac is almost there but not quite, especially on the administrative end of the scale (server or desktop), if they play the market right and read the part of the market they largely ignore, then they could come up with a killer product. Usable, scalable, easily administered in a domain environment etc.

I will keep my left eye on the market, while I am not jumping off my bandwagon yet, I will be prepared to if they can come to the ball game with the right equipment. Right now they are only ready to scrimmage in a business environment.

Then again, I am not a weenie and far from a microsoft weenie. Right now they offer a series of products for medium business that is largely untouchable imo (there are options but they tend to cost more and require most admistrative work). I use a few unix boxes for their purposes as well.
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You should have left that post up mlts22. I agree with you completely. Every single point I would have posted but just don't have the time. Especially the point about viruses etc.

In short, Mac is almost there but not quite, especially on the administrative end of the scale (server or desktop),
if they play the market right and read the part of the market they largely ignore, then they could come up with a killer product. Usable, scalable, easily administered in a domain environment etc.

I will keep my left eye on the market, while I am not jumping off my bandwagon yet, I will be prepared to if they can come to the ball game with the right equipment. Right now they are only ready to scrimmage in a business environment.

Then again, I am not a weenie and far from a microsoft weenie. Right now they offer a series of products for medium business that is largely untouchable imo (there are options but they tend to cost more and require most admistrative work). I use a few unix boxes for their purposes as well.
You may not have noticed, but that is all Apple has been doing for the past decade. Longer, actually, but I'm talking to the unwashed Windows Masses.
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You may not have noticed, but that is all Apple has been doing for the past decade. Longer, actually, but I'm talking to the unwashed Windows Masses.
No, they read a single part of the market (home user). The largely ignore the other half (is it even half, I forget the stats of commercial vs home use)
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