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    Bananaed Brillig's Avatar
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    What happened to P&R?

    Did they start the change tonight?
    If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
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    Can you view the forum at all? If so, read the top sticky for info.

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    But the simple answer - yes, all is supposed to resume by 6:00 AM, Donna's time.

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    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Did they start the change tonight?
    Is P&R in menopause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
    Is P&R in menopause?


    Well, the hot flashes have been going on for years...
    If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post


    Well, the hot flashes have been going on for years...
    Many of them are now gone .

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    it's a liberal conspiracy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by randya View Post
    it's a liberal conspiracy!
    Oh, I forgot to mention that, didn't I?

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    I have been getting email notices of posts being made to P&R threads that I am subscribed to but I cannot see the P&R forum. ?
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    has somebody been screwing with the alphabet again?

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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by eofelis View Post
    I have been getting email notices of posts being made to P&R threads that I am subscribed to but I cannot see the P&R forum. ?
    They changed it so it's by permission only.

    Knock on the door and say the magic word....

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=379780
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    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    They changed it so it's by permission only.

    Knock on the door and say the magic word....

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=379780
    Considering that thread is in P&R, if they can't access the forum, they probably can't read it. The short of it is, contact either Brian or Donnamb for access. They'll explain any additional needed details.
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    I get in just fine. Brillig, I told you to drink your Ovaltine and send away for your Little Orphan Annie secret decoder ring, but noooooooooooo
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda2k View Post
    Considering that thread is in P&R, if they can't access the forum, they probably can't read it. The short of it is, contact either Brian or Donnamb for access. They'll explain any additional needed details.
    I thought that they were able to read but not post?
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    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    I thought that they were able to read but not post?
    I do believe that is true.

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    We can neither read nor post.

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    If you don't have access and want it, PM Brian or me. We think Brian has fixed it so that unless you are given specific access, you can see P&R but cannot make posts. That was not the case until this evening.
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    I haven't been to P&R for the last year or more, IIRC. It's like the Western Front trenches of WWI in there. Both sides fight, attack, counterattack and neither side gets anywhere. A waste of time and energy.

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    It's a tad better than last year.
    "Real wars of words are harder to win. They require thought, insight, precision, articulation, knowledge, and experience. They require the humility to admit when you are wrong. They recognize that the dialectic is not about making us look at you, but about us all looking together for the truth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
    I haven't been to P&R for the last year or more, IIRC. It's like the Western Front trenches of WWI in there. Both sides fight, attack, counterattack and neither side gets anywhere. A waste of time and energy.
    Except for all the times when it's fun, funny, witty, informative, intellectually stimulating, clever, touching, etc.

    I guess if one sees it as a team competition one might be frustrated by the fact that a winner is never declared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
    I haven't been to P&R for the last year or more, IIRC. It's like the Western Front trenches of WWI in there. Both sides fight, attack, counterattack and neither side gets anywhere. A waste of time and energy.
    I used to think the same, but there are some very intelligent, insightful people in there. Whether or not I agree with them is another story, but at least they can make a sound argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
    I haven't been to P&R for the last year or more, IIRC. It's like the Western Front trenches of WWI in there. Both sides fight, attack, counterattack and neither side gets anywhere. A waste of time and energy.
    Its a kinder, gentler P&R now
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    Its a kinder, gentler P&R now
    At least it's more amusing .

    We have tea and crumpets with gooseberry jam, too .

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    Why can I read but not post in P&R

    Here I had some substantive response to P'cad economic question re stimulus packages and I'm locked out. Did offend someone?
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