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Old 01-18-08, 06:40 PM   #1
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Who lives in the San Francisco Bay Area?

I have decided I want to move to California, preferably sometime before summer. I went to San Francisco last October and absolutely loved it! So I need some advice from those who live in the Bay area.

I figured I would rent a town home or apartment in San Francisco first (ideally the Marina District), so then I could get a better idea of where I want to live before I buy a home. I found www.sfresidence.com which provides great information on all the different districts in the city.

What is it like to live in the Sausalito, Tiburon, San Rafael area? Price isnít an issue and I work from home so commuting is not a factor. From what I remember, San Jose seemed a little trashy, at least the part I drove through. And according to my dad, the same goes for Oakland. What particular areas should I avoid? Iíd like to live by/on the water, so I donít want to go inland like Sacramento. And I like big cities, but I will take a drive up to Santa Rosa and check it out.

This is probably getting too specific, but are there any particular luxury apartment/townhomes any would recommend? The new Paramount looked pretty sick! So did the Stienhart Hotel and Archstone South Market.

Iím planning on taking a trip in about 6-8 weeks.

Thanks for the advice!
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Old 01-18-08, 08:36 PM   #2
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Sausalito, Tiburon, San Rafael all have the drawback of needing to go back and forth on the bridge. Traffic can get really backed up depending on the time of day you'd be crossing.

Parts of San Jose are about as high end as you can dream of, and other bits not so good. Willow Glen in San Jose is a nice older neighbourhood, close to downtown and all the cool amenities.

Santa Rosa is nice up in the hills, but my impression now is that it has horrible growth problems.

My mother and father lived in a nice condo down by the Embarcadero for years before they returned to San Jose, and really liked it. It was centrally located, had markets, freeway access, etc.

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Old 01-18-08, 08:43 PM   #3
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I live in Santa Clara, and riding in the area around the peninsula is great. Great terrain, nice climbs, and areas flat enough to enjoy it too. Never have a lack of interesting places to ride.
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Old 01-19-08, 12:35 AM   #4
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About two hours from San Francisco in a little town of Salinas, but it seems San Francisco can be amazing. I still have relatives who reside there and in San Jose no less. Probably been in California way to long Well wish you the best of luck on the relocation.
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I live in south san francisco, they are building luxory apartments down the street.

5 minutes or less away from this..

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I can't imagine what it is like to ride on a road like this!

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There sure is a lot of absolutely dazzling beauty there, but the things I can't stand are that it's overcrowded, there are a lot of really rude, mean, and stupid people, and the police seem to think that it's there job to strive to be overbearing and intimidate everyone.

Yep, I visit there on occasion. But I wouldn't live there for anything. I'd take Colorado over Kali myself.
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Lucky you, I love San Francisco as well. You have many options between living in the city, to the suburbs in the peninsula, the artsy areas in Marin County, etc. I think renting in the city is an excellent idea to see what areas suit you best.
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I can't imagine what it is like to ride on a road like this!

If that road goes anywhere near a good winery, I am so gonna find it and ride it someday!
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If that road goes anywhere near a good winery, I am so gonna find it and ride it someday!
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Skyline Boulevard runs through the Santa Cruz Mountains, here near Palo Alto, California. The Santa Cruz Mountains, part of the Coast Ranges, are a mountain range in central California. They form a ridge along the San Francisco Peninsula, south of San Francisco, separating the Pacific Ocean from San Francisco Bay and the Santa Clara Valley, and continuing south, bordering Monterey Bay and ending at the Salinas Valley. Photo credit: Jawed Karim
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I can't imagine what it is like to ride on a road like this!

I ride it all the time!
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Meh, stupid Bay Area, so pretty and so close, yet so far away. *shakes fist*
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I ride it all the time!
So you know it only looks like that about two weeks out of the year .

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Meh, stupid Bay Area, so pretty and so close, yet so far away. *shakes fist*
Hey, you've got all those lovely rice fields to ride around, no complaining. And walnut groves, don't forget the walnut groves.

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So you know it only looks like that about two weeks out of the year .

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Yeah usually there aren't clouds in the sky!

(and the grass is brown)
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(and the grass is brown)
That's the part I remember most .

It's so beautiful when everything is green, especially if you throw in a field or two of California poppies, and maybe some blue lupins as well...but it doesn't last very long .

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looks like an exciting route, beautiful, that is in San Francisco, I would guess out a bit in suburbia though am I right? Two hours from there I live, though most of my family still resides there. Born in San Francisco, but for some reason I grew up in a little town called Salinas.
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It is Skyline Blvd, down on the peninsula a bit south of SF.
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So you know it only looks like that about two weeks out of the year .

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Now, now, be fair. It looks like that at least two months out of the year - usually about three, somethimes four. Wish it was more, but even when the hills are golden (read: brown) it's still a beautiful area to ride.

Al of the above applies to the East Bay, too.
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I grew up in Saratoga and rode on Skyline quite a bit. We actually did a ride up Big Basin across skyline and down Pagemill last year. Wonderful scenery and nowhere nearly as crowded as S.F.
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Last I took that route was coming from Salinas, through Castroville, into Monterey, and then along highway 1, where I was so fortunate to find big basin, and to then after a great offroad downhill out the back way of Big Basin, cannot think of the name off the top of my head was a great ride though. I will have to take the ride out there and get the experience first hand.
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Meh, stupid Bay Area, so pretty and so close, yet so far away. *shakes fist*
I feel ya! We're going to look for a box, er, uh, a house by the end of the year that is at least within driving distance to BART so I can get to work in Downtown SF without dealing with the bridge traffic.

ARGH!!!
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You know I look at the map you offered there ms, and realized I had been down that way on my first tour but had followed highway 1 instead of that back route. Now I will have to plan on that tour in the near future. A couple of days or so. Thanks for sharing.
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Now, now, be fair. It looks like that at least two months out of the year - usually about three, somethimes four. Wish it was more, but even when the hills are golden (read: brown) it's still a beautiful area to ride.

Al of the above applies to the East Bay, too.
Well, yes, it does last more than a couple of weeks, and it's beautiful even when it's brown, but by then it's way too hot for me.

I sure do miss the days of seeing the green grass on the hills, and then coming across a hill that was glittering with California poppies, dotted with the blue counterpoint of wild lupins, though. There are so few people who have seen that amazing sight nowadays... .

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That's the part I remember most .

It's so beautiful when everything is green, especially if you throw in a field or two of California poppies, and maybe some blue lupins as well...but it doesn't last very long .

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It looks like this the rest of the year.

Note the happy bicyclists enjoying the brownery.

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