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    Erasing past network connections...?

    I have noticed that if I am near a wireless network that is configured for open access that my wireless card will connect to that network. Does this constitute signal theft even if inadvertent? Is there a way to erase from the hard drive any traces of any such past connections?

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    The 2.4GHz RF frequency that 802.11x (WIFI) uses is public domain, mean no one owns it. Your radio in your WIFI enabled device is designed to detect the signals. Now is it ethical and lawful to use someones unsecured network to avoid having to pay for access with out them knowing it, I don't think so.
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    dban?

    If they are logging, they'll the MAC address of your machines wireless card anyway.
    Just keep using it and pretend you're a neophyte, "my machine magically connected and I didn't want to mess with it once it was working."

    *edit: I recall reading a news of a case where someone was charged, so there may be precedent for using an unsecured wireless network being construed as trespassing, e.g. going into someone's home even if their door is wide open. I think it was a case in Florida.

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    I have several networks around my house that come in stronger than the signal my router puts out sometimes. I often thought about canceling my service and using theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxgtr View Post
    I have several networks around my house that come in stronger than the signal my router puts out sometimes. I often thought about canceling my service and using theirs.
    Hopefully they aren't thinking the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastRadius View Post
    If they are logging, they'll the MAC address of your machines wireless card anyway.
    Just keep using it and pretend you're a neophyte, "my machine magically connected and I didn't want to mess with it once it was working."

    *edit: I recall reading a news of a case where someone was charged, so there may be precedent for using an unsecured wireless network being construed as trespassing, e.g. going into someone's home even if their door is wide open. I think it was a case in Florida.
    Anyone who knows how to figure out if someone's stealing their bandwidth also knows how to prevent that. They also know that unsophisticated users often have no idea what they are connected to. I'm wondering what motivation they could possibly have for bringing suit.

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    http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/04/St...a_new_br.shtml

    "In a way Dinon was fortunate the man outside his home stuck around since it remains a challenge to catch people in the act. Smith, who police said admitted to using Dinon's Wi-Fi, has been charged with unauthorized access to a computer network, a third-degree felony. A pretrial hearing is set for July 11."

    Parking your car in front of the house who's connection you're using is pretty lame. If you're in a building using the unsecured Wi-Fi of a neighbor, it's harder to detect who is using the connection or from which direction. The effort to find you would cost a lot more than just enabling WPA on your AP.

    On a side note: Last weekend, I was on my way to a California Mission but got lost (didn't print map beforehand). I pulled off the freeway, jumped onto an open access point with my laptop and got the directions. In and out in less than a minute. There something to be said about open community access.

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