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Old 01-28-08, 10:58 AM   #1
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The Quest for perfect coffee......

I'm now very close....I think I have finally begun making my best coffee yet. The trick? I've finally got a vacuum pot (e.g. siphon). See pic below.


I'd heard this was the "compact disc" of coffee makers and now that I'm perfecting my brewing process, I believe it. I'm now making better coffee that I've made previously with any other brewing method. The coffee comes out with "coffee shop" quality. I'm loving the coffee this thing makes.

Anybody ever have or use a vac pot coffee brewer?

If you've never heard of vacuum pot coffee brewing, check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_coffee
http://baharris.org/coffee/History.htm
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I like my coffe like I like my women. Finely ground and stored in the freezer.
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I prefer cold brew coffee using the Toddy Coffee Maker:

http://www.toddycafe.com/

I don't make it very often though since it takes a while to make (you gotta plan ahead) and my mom keeps throwing my filters away (i keep them in the fridge but she thinks it's trash)...

They state you need to use Arabica coarse ground beans, but i find the regular Folgers grind to be perfectly acceptable. Also putting afew regular coffee filters makes for an acceptable substitute for the Toddy specific filter (though you'll want to pour the concentrate through another filter to get out any grinds that didn't initially get filtered out).
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hmmmm, if I hadn't seen the coffee beans sitting there, why I could swear that has another use

However, I'm backing out of this thread now as you know what culinary treasures I drink and call "coffee".

(p.s. - being Monday - I got fresh coffee; now tomorrow it's nukin' time).
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I have heard those are fine coffee makers. Haven't used one myself.

Let you in on a secret. If we're talking good coffee makers, the coffee is 90%
of the game. Maybe more.

Mom had a Mr Coffee back in the 70's. Ir would not meet coffee snob approval.
But I could get amazing coffee back then and I'd bring some by because it always made her smile.What came out of that Mr Coffee was wonderful if what went in was wonderful.

I haven't tasted wonderful coffee in years. Of course, it costs ten times and more what it did back then.
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I only like filtered coffee. The oils from the beans taste really bitter to me, and the filter catches most of that.
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KT, if I'm ever out in your neck of the woods, you'll have to make me a cup.

I was in a hurry this morning, so all I had time to make was pre-ground folgers in my Mr. Coffee. (ewwww)
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pssst. Don't tell KT that coffee shops use BUNN commercial drip coffee makers.
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I like my coffe like I like my women. Finely ground and stored in the freezer.
This guy hadn't got to the grinder yet...
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The best coffee I have is either from our expresso maker or a bag method with LOTS of coffee. It is all about speed - get the flavor without the vileness.

I love a strong (okay, more than strong) coffee that is smooth - almost taste like a coffee liquor...
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There is a school of thought that says you do not grind until you are ready to drink. I just like to get it out of the way right at the start.
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yes, fresher that way
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I like my coffe like I like my women. Finely ground and stored in the freezer.
To each their own. I put Baileys in my coffee because I like my coffee like I like my women......full of booze.
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The perfect cup of coffee varies based on my mood.
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I have heard those are fine coffee makers. Haven't used one myself.

Let you in on a secret. If we're talking good coffee makers, the coffee is 90%
of the game. Maybe more.
True (I'd say 80%), but I've already got the "great coffee" part down. I've still struggled at times with my coffee in the french press or other methods I have equipment for.


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I only like filtered coffee. The oils from the beans taste really bitter to me, and the filter catches most of that.
Usually the "bitterness" comes from steeping too long. This does have a filter. It's a small cloth filter that goes over a metal filter and is in the bottom of the top chamber (kind of like a sink plug).

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pssst. Don't tell KT that coffee shops use BUNN commercial drip coffee makers.
That's because you live in Alabama and haven't been to a real coffee shop. Good coffee shops don't use Bunn drip coffee makers. They usually will use french press.


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It is all about speed - get the flavor without the vileness.
You are 100% correct. I knew that steeping too long brought out the bitterness, but I'm learning more and more that a larger amount of coffee and shorter steep time brings about a better flavor.

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The perfect cup of coffee varies based on my mood.
That's very true too. Even with coffees....I have a friend that only drinks Kona now. She thinks its the best coffee and there's no need to try another. I think of it like wine. There are tons of great ones out there. You need to experiment and get different coffees for more variety and what you are in the mood for. As for preparation....sometimes I just want a cup of coffee. Sometimes I want a latte.
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True (I'd say 80%), but I've already got the "great coffee" part down. I've still struggled at times with my coffee in the french press or other methods I have equipment for.


What do you use for coffee?

Btw, I just ordered an Aerobie Aeropress brewer on an impulse, prob cause the guy also does traditional coffee roasting over a wood fire and I wanted to try some of his coffee.
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KT, once you get this thing perfected let me know. I'm choking down some real disgusting stuff at work. We're not allowed to bring in our own plug-in coffee maker due to fire hazard reasons. We can however use the companies electric kettle to boil water. From the looks of the vacuum thingy it doesn't need to be plugged in. BTW, where did you find it?
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My preference is either a press or an Espresso maker.

For the large pots, it's a simple Mr Coffee and it works well enough for the only times I really use it.....when my Parents are in for a visit. My Stepdad likes Folgers and doesn't like my exotic coffees.
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The best coffee is free coffee, but not just any kind of free coffee (a lot of free coffee out there is weak and foul and a complete waste of consumption). The best free coffee is made from one of those German made Krups machines, especially the coffee from the higher end models, (the ones with the multi-lingual illuminating display). They give you an option of brewing a 4, 8, 12 or 16 oz cup from one krups cup. So if you use a 16 oz cup you can fill it with 4 krups cup using the 4 oz setting. Also, if you have one of the more affordable models w/o the cup size setting - you can press the brew button to make it stop prematurely and achieve the thing. In this case, maximum waste = maximum caffeine goodness. What a great freakin perk of this job. Anybody try the krups pumpkin spice? It's really good man. And the mocha nut and the 'bold' roast like the espresso flavor ones are really good too.
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The $20,000 coffee maker. I want one.
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Good beans, good water, and a fresh grind are the most important factors for me. I have tried a lot of beans and for now Equal Exchange French Roast is my favorite. The organic stuff really does taste better, at least to me.

I have a 10 cup Krups pot that brews into a carafe and refuses to die. The thing has been used daily for 12 years. If I'm feeling fancy I have a stove top Bialetti espresso maker. Works great for iced drinks.

How much better is the vacuum pot coffee really?
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One day while bicycling in Normandy (France) I stopped at a small restaurant for lunch. Along with my meal, they served the perfect cup of coffee. This coffee was so good that it tasted as good as it smelled! My quest for coffee this good had been futile until then, no matter how hard I tried to fulfill it.
Knowing this, I asked the management how they did it and can now make it today.

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What do you use for coffee?
The coffee I'm liking the most right now is Raven's Brew (www.ravensbrew.com)




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The $20,000 coffee maker. I want one.
That's just a fancy, multi-brew (5-burners/brewers) version of exactly what I posted as my new brewer.

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KT, once you get this thing perfected let me know. I'm choking down some real disgusting stuff at work. We're not allowed to bring in our own plug-in coffee maker due to fire hazard reasons. We can however use the companies electric kettle to boil water. From the looks of the vacuum thingy it doesn't need to be plugged in. BTW, where did you find it?
You still have to heat the water somehow....just an electric kettle won't do. You have to bring it to boil (or near boil) in bottom chamber for it to create the vacuum and force water into top chamber. You need a flame or electric burner to put the pot on. It probably wouldn't work at your work place.

I got it at: http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtml
I bought the 8-cup Yama.
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ohhhhh KT...raven's brew....I think i have field trip coming up to bellevue in the next couple weeks.....mmmmm...raven's brew.......

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