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Old 02-05-08, 01:32 PM   #1
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iPod's and the Price of Flash Memory

This article got me thinking a little bit:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/infoworld/20...nfoworld/95022

Particularly, "The price of mainstream 4Gb SLC (single-level cell) NAND flash memory chips has fallen 73 percent since mid-August to $4.96 late Thursday."

A 4 GB iPod costs $150.

Obviously, there's a lot more there than just a flash chip there, but the premium you currently pay for increased capacity is interesting, nonetheless. I'm betting we'll be seeing some prices drop for media players pretty soon.
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Market typically dictates price. When you have a 75% market share (as of last year), you control the market. When you control the market you control the price. When you control the price, you can put it at whatever you want...
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What i'd like to see is a portable player which functions as a solid state drive with expansion capability. That way you can open it up and pop in afew 4gb SD cards when you want.
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What i'd like to see is a portable player which functions as a solid state drive with expansion capability. That way you can open it up and pop in afew 4gb SD cards when you want.
I've got an 8MB flash Sandisk Sansa that has a micro-SD port on it.

They have been falling in cost recently and can be had for under $150 pretty readily.
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What i'd like to see is a portable player which functions as a solid state drive with expansion capability. That way you can open it up and pop in afew 4gb SD cards when you want.
Give it 4 years i'd say and you'll start to see solid state HD's in our MP3 players...smaller and lighter than you'd ever imagine...

Note, i said SSHD
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I'd like to see PCs have a full blown OS stored on read-only flash. This would not just make recovery if the main OS dies a lot easier, but if the ROM based OS is good enough (like a Knoppix CD), it could be the PC's primary OS for even server tasks, and the hard disks be used for pretty much data only.

Another idea would to have the recovery partition that is shipped in lieu of media stored on flash, rather than taking precious space on the main HDD. This also protects the recovery partition should malware try zeroing out the drive on a low level.
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I'd like to see PCs have a full blown OS stored on read-only flash. This would not just make recovery if the main OS dies a lot easier, but if the ROM based OS is good enough (like a Knoppix CD), it could be the PC's primary OS for even server tasks, and the hard disks be used for pretty much data only.

Another idea would to have the recovery partition that is shipped in lieu of media stored on flash, rather than taking precious space on the main HDD. This also protects the recovery partition should malware try zeroing out the drive on a low level.
You didn't check out the link i posted did you?

Solid state hard drives are here...they are going to be dropping in price and will soon be the norm. You've only touched on the advantages. Think Vista boot times of 10 seconds...faster...
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Thank god for gamers, always driving the price down of cool products.
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Here is some more info on SSD's. It is still pretty amazing to me that my MP3 player and my camera have more memory than my first computer.
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I am still waiting for the flash/regular hard disk drives that have support in Vista. The flash memory is used as read/write cache so a bunch of random reads/writes are just copied to the memory, then moved to the magnetic drive when time permits, speeding things up a lot because the comp doesn't have to wait for the physical drive head to get to the data.
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Here is some more info on SSD's. It is still pretty amazing to me that my MP3 player and my camera have more memory than my first computer.
More info eh?
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did i forget to post a link? doh
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Here it is: http://www.storagesearch.com/ssd-buyers-guide.html
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Thanks for the link. I'm probably going to be building a server soonish, so if a SSD of 32-64 gigs isn't too pricy, it would be a great drive for the OS and the Active Directory stuff.
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You didn't check out the link i posted did you?

Solid state hard drives are here...they are going to be dropping in price and will soon be the norm. You've only touched on the advantages. Think Vista boot times of 10 seconds...faster...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1PiYgBhAkAM

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