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Old 03-03-08, 09:20 PM   #1
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Wife's computer hard drive failed, need recommendations for new one.

My wife's computer has eaten another hard drive. Or rather the storms we had about a month ago did. In any case, after replacing all the other parts in her computer tonight (it was due for a complete upgrade) I came to the discovery that it was in fact the one part I didn't buy that was in need of replacement. (Damn Murphy and that law of his)

Current drive is a Western Digital 120GB, ATA133. I've checked newegg and all the drives all have their reviews of "I've had X number of these fail in Y number of months!!!!!" along with plenty of good reviews. So, Techie foosters, what are you all running these days? Looking for about 160-250GB in size, SATA (her new board only does 1.5, but 3.0's are backwards compatible of course)
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Dude, that is harsh. Keep the wife and just get her a new computer.

Oh, I just read the body of your post, nevermind.
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Hitachi DeskStar (aka Death Star) series are pretty reliable desktop drives. Keep those backups alive!
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I've always had good luck with Seagate. Tend to be pretty quiet, too.
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Hitachi DeskStar (aka Death Star) series are pretty reliable desktop drives. Keep those backups alive!
Thankfully A) we had just done a complete backup and wipe of the drive only about a month ago. and B) the drive wasn't completely dead so any recent changes were able to be backed up on the file server (which is of course why I have a file server now).

Jeff, my wife stays, but the drive, yes, it be toast.
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I'm using Maxtor (1.2GB, 80GB, 200GB, 300GB, 750GB later this year to come). The 200GB burned due to faulty external enclosure wiring, user error. The 1.2GB is 12 years old. But then again, I tend to get the better end of a product on the distribution curve. My hard drive based iPod is 3 years old.
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Dude, that is harsh. Keep the wife and just get her a new computer.
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Jsharr, you just earned yourself some cake the next time I bake.
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Big, cheap, fast
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Here's the short list...

Portable backups:
WD 2.5" 160GB and 320GB Passport Drives (these really contain my entire system, as I do not keep any files on my laptop)

WD 3.5" 160GB and 500GB ATAs

FYI, I run a really easy backup software called SynchBackSE
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Whatever drive you might decide on, you can make any of them last longer by using an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) with a voltage regulator.

I was given this tip by a local PC tech that has replaced a lot of drives: If you live in an area like I do that has a lot of line voltage fluctuation, colloquially called a "dirty" supply, you would benefit from one. Most PC power supplies handle spikes just fine, the capacitors absorb the excess, but do nothing for extended lows. The UPS provides the power for the lows and cleans up the voltage giving close to a dead even 110V. This is a lot better for all the components, including the HDDs.

I've also heard that using a UPS may be the only thing to save a PC in a lightning strike. Lightning easily jumps the gap in a standard surge strip, even if it's switched off. Models are available that isolate data lines too which can also whack your gear if struck. If it does get zapped, it'll kill the UPS but at least you stand a better chance of keeping your data with something inbetween.
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Seagate SATA. I bought one for my grandmother, 250GB, I believe it was 70 dollars.
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I've always had good luck with Seagate. Tend to be pretty quiet, too.
I tried watching Stargate, but it was too confusing for me.
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Seagate makes some nice drives. Honestly, I don't think any one brand is more or less reliable than another. Look at the Seagate 7200.11 and 7200.10 series drives. I'm running a pair of 250gb 7200.10 drives right now, and they're just fine.
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As told by a data recovery professional, there is essentially insignificant differences between similar drives from all major makes, as far as reliability is concerned. I trust this comment because:
  1. the data recovery service has no vested interest
  2. they see their fair share of failed drives
Thus, if one sticks to a regular backup schedule, then the only concerns when purchasing a hard disk drive is price, size, and noise (in whichever order one sees fit).
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If you believe in warranties...Seagate's is 5-years.
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Dare I say online storage? A nice small inexpensive HD for programs, operating systems and some local storage and an online service for your photo's etc...
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I have a file server, plus DVD backups, and some important stuff stored online as well. I'll likely go with a 160GB Seagate SATA.
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Solid State!

Probably not big enough though...
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"Or rather the storms we had about a month ago did."

definate candidate for a UPS with a surge suppressor rated for lightening strike. I've been using one since 1992, when a storm blew up my computer (which was shut down) via the modem/phone line. About 3 years ago a storm blew the UPS, but the computer was fine, and ProAm replaced the UPS free! Worth the @$40!!
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Solid State!

Probably not big enough though...
Spending money on a solid state drive is similar to trying to shave grams off a 15lb bike. I would love to get my hands on a ss drive though and riddle the os with spyware to see how much faster popups appear with IE 6.

I have always had luck with the Hitachi Deskstar series. Even a few year ago when a number of them had issues, the ones in some of the machines at my work didn't snafu.
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Whatever drive you might decide on, you can make any of them last longer by using an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) with a voltage regulator.
I came here to say this, too. I feel that a UPS should be as common as a keyboard or mouse, but they look boring and don't seem to do much (even though they actually do a lot).

As far as a HD, I guess I am lucky. I have never lost a HD, but know plenty who have. I have also been using a UPS for a very long time, so that might be evidence right there.

I don't have a favorite brand, though. I like Seagate, WD, Max all the same...
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We had a UPS on the machine, but the battery appears to have lost its charge over the years we've had it. Time to replace that too. I've been watching for sales on them as they don't come cheap, but certainly worth having. Espeically this time of year in Texas! (Storms have been rolling in earlier this year it seems, usually our peak thunderstorm season doesn't start till mid March till May.
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My battery died too...right when we were having a series of power outages.

The bad part about that wasn't that I couldn't get online (though that did suck beyond measure), but that the sudden outages are very hard on a PC and can lose critical data, even cause the machine to not boot. HDDs are a mechanical device and spin at impressive speeds. From what I've read, drives suddenly losing power can cause the mech to slam to a stop, sorta like someone pulling the plug while you're on the treadmill. I was at a LAN that the breaker kept tripping and eventually my rig lost some critical boot files, forcing a reformat. Yeah, that sucked too...I couldn't play any more.

I'd invested in a pretty hefty UPS a few years ago that can run my PC for up to an hour. I went to a local battery shop and replaced it for under $50. Ordering batteries online usually won't save you anything...the shipping for something that heavy makes up for any discount.
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Spending money on a solid state drive is similar to trying to shave grams off a 15lb bike. I would love to get my hands on a ss drive though and riddle the os with spyware to see how much faster popups appear with IE 6.

I have always had luck with the Hitachi Deskstar series. Even a few year ago when a number of them had issues, the ones in some of the machines at my work didn't snafu.
Interesting analogy.

My dream is to have a solid state drive for the OS and put everything else on 2 regular drives (one for programs, one for file storage).

I've got an IBM Deskstar (before they went to Hitachi) that lasted 5 years without problems. Currently i've got a WD Caviar with a 16mb cache (i think it's 16mb, might be 32mb). I always use active cooling on my drives with a small fan on the circuitboard side and the hard drive mounted upside down (circuitboard side up). My reasoning is that heat rises so you want to actively cool the hottest part of the drive.
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Oh, and I took the opportunity of ordering from Newegg to double the RAM on my desktop (2 to 4GB), and quadruple the RAM in my laptop (1 to 4GB). I'm on the laptop most often when not at work, and just couldn't do any programming in visual studio with only a gig between the system and the video.
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