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Old 03-04-08, 04:13 PM   #1
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Nascar

Why is this viewed as such a redneck sport? The car builders are college educated engineers and experts in aerodynamics. The engine builders are on the leading edge of engine building technology and research. And they race in places like California, Vegas, New York, Chicago, and even internationally in Mexico and Canada. The majority of drivers aren't named "Bubba" or anything like that, they are Jimmie, Jeff, Carl, Kyle, etc. And their are now Canadians, Australians and South Americans racing in the highest level. So I ask, what is more redneck about racing a car than racing anything else, even a bicycle?
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Well, every redneck/racist pig that I have ever known has loved NASCAR.
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The sport itself isn't redneck, but the fans sure are.

Driving in circles is boring.
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Well, every redneck/racist pig that I have ever known has loved NASCAR.
I think it has to do something with sitting on your ***** and drinking beer.
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I'm a huge NASCAR fan...... Still sticking by your all inclusive comments?

Ian, how many racist/redneck pigs have you known? And you do know they have had black drivers and crew right? And you do know one of their three main announcers is black right? And you know they have multiple females that are reporting from trackside right? Oh, and their have been women drivers too? And soon, their may be another if she makes the move from IRL.
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I think it has to do something with sitting on your ***** and drinking beer.
Now you have to be a racist redneck to do that? I better tell all my hardcore biker buddies to put down their beer and drink some Jack before going home to beat their wifes then.




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I'm a huge NASCAR fan...... Still sticking by your all inclusive comments?
Yes.
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pushrods? live axles? cutting edge technology? You cant be serious. Toyota had to dumb it down as they've never built a pushrod V8.
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I'm a huge NASCAR fan...... Still sticking by your all inclusive comments?

Ian, how many racist/redneck pigs have you known?

I grew up in a small farm town. I'd say that over 50% of the population would be considered racist (like blatant racism). I have some family that is included in that 50%. I spent my whole life around it and guess what? They all love NASCAR

I'm sorry that you are so offended by this.
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They are still carbourated but they are some of the most advanced carbourated motors out there. I dare anyone here to build an 850 HP engine. Any anything else that could come close.
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I'm sorry that you are so offended by this.
I'm not offended by it and as the OP I feel it's my right to defend it. But just sayin "racists love NASCAR" really proves nothing one way or another to me.

Basically, I'm causing controversy (hopefully within the Rules of Foo) to pass time at work.
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I grew up in a small farm town. I'd say that over 50% of the population would be considered racist (like blatant racism). I have some family that is included in that 50%. I spent my whole life around it and guess what? They all love NASCAR

I'm sorry that you are so offended by this.
Generally speaking, the world as a whole is uninterested in the world of the individual. As such, you're personal experience is pretty unimportant to me. Though, it does reveal why you're so narrow minded.

A short history lesson in the roots of NASCAR reveals why it draws the fans it does and why it has the stereotype of being "redneck".
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Moonshine runners. That is how it started. 50, 60 years ago I guess. I just don't see how people's mindsets haven't changed about NASCAR the way they have about so many other things.
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Sport?

I'd rather watch CD's spin.
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Generally speaking, the world as a whole is uninterested in the world of the individual. As such, you're personal experience is pretty unimportant to me. Though, it does reveal why you're so narrow minded.
Btw... I have travelled a good chunk of the US and most of Europe, work in a multi-national team and am probably going to Sri Lanka next year to visit friends. I don't think anyone that knows me would call me "narrow minded"



....except when it comes to my love of vintage Triumph twins.
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Also, you are just asking why it is viewed as a redneck sport... I am just giving my opinion


I should have also mentioned that my old man races dirt track and I have been his pit crew for the last 5 years...
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Surprising that being involve in racing, you still don't like it. But to each their own, like I said I'm not trying to convert anyone.

I don't think that just because you travel makes you well rounded though. In my job we live in three countries over three years. Just being there does nothing for you. Getting out and learning the customs, culture and getting to know the people can open your mind up, but not just because you've been there.
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If I had to guess, I would say that since NASCAR was based on old time Stock-Car racing, which often was fueled by fermented malt and hops and/or distilled alcohol, the stereotype has sort of stuck.
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Surprising that being involve in racing, you still don't like it. But to each their own, like I said I'm not trying to convert anyone.

I just don't like NASCAR, or TV for that matter (I have one in my room but haven't plugged it back in since rearranging about a month ago). I like being at the track, working on the car and watching my dad race. Watching racing on TV just doesn't compare to that



And I don't think all NASCAR fans are rednecks. I do believe that there is a correlation between the two though.
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The sport was started by a bunch of good ol boys racing their moonshine running cars for bragging rights. It has evolved, but for years, held tightly to its roots.
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The sport itself isn't redneck, but the fans sure are.
Exactly, lots of Nascar fans seem intent on fulfilling every redneck stereotype they can think of, from their confederate flags to their mullets to the ridiculous trucks. It seems like they work to cultivate that image.
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pushrods? live axles? cutting edge technology? You cant be serious. Toyota had to dumb it down as they've never built a pushrod V8.
Seven-post shaker, wind tunnels. Yes, they still use traditional engines but that is part of the history.

As for Toyota, I'm glad they are in the series, but Toyota can't talk until the win something (more then one race) in Nascar or F1.

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I think it has to do something with sitting on your ***** and drinking beer.
Did you just quote yourself?
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The sport itself isn't redneck, but the fans sure are.

Driving in circles is boring.
There is more to it then driving in circles, there are a lot of dynamics at play during a race. IMAX did a very
entertaining and informative movie on NASCAR it is a good place to start if anyone wanted learn a little more about the sport.
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