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    Should I become a vegetarian?

    The last time I ate meat was about two weeks ago when my parents visited me and I got chicken alfredo at Applebees. The last time I ate meat before that was a hamburger about a month ago. My meals usually consist of some kind of pasta or rice or potatoes and some vegetables. (I do eat dairy products).

    Should I officially become a vegetarian and try to avoid all meat? Or should I still eat meat occasionally (such as at restaurants)?

    Are any of you Foosters vegetarians? Any advice/opinions? What are some of your favorite meals to cook?

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    Are you conciously avoiding meat or is it just becoming your preference to eat other foods? I have found myself reducing my meat intake as well (not as drastically though), however I'm not sure why.

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    I'm not trying to avoid it. Maybe I'm just too lazy to cook meat? It's not moral/ethical reasons either; I have no problems with killing animals for food. Vegetables and grains just taste so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    I'm not trying to avoid it. Maybe I'm just too lazy to cook meat? It's not moral/ethical reasons either; I have no problems with killing animals for food. Vegetables and grains just taste so much better.
    Then I would say no, eat meat when you want it.

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    Your lack of desire to prepare meat is not really a good reason to officially say you'll become a vegetarian. Eat meat when the opportunity presents itself, and when you want to.
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    But if I become a vegetarian, I can brag about it to all my friends.

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    Ya know, I've thought about as I go for days or couple of weeks without meat (especially in the past couple months) - basically making sure I get my proteins in fish, tofu (which I like ... but a whole lot), nuts, and the veggies that contain protein, plus soy products. But it's not a diet that I plan - it's just how I prefer to eat, cause I'd love a good steak once in a while, Love a nice smoked pork plate - and oh fa-reakin' YUM - one of the four types of liverwursts sold by my favorite German market. I just don't eat them too much anymore, but enjoy them when I do! Not too many eggs either as for some stoopid reason eggs - scrambled only and bananas (of all things) mess with my stomach. Tomatoes, hot sauce - freaking hotter than hell habaneros that I add at least 2 plus another 2 thai chilis to my serving of curry ... don't bother me. Nope, it's bananas.

    Anyways, I just consider that I imagine that I eat healthier - but am not a vegetarian due to my once in a while enjoyment of meat.

    However, I'm also friends who are vegetarians as well as a couple of vegans and we have a very nice organic grocery store near me that is sooooo nice! Look for one of them and you can lose yourself in there finding all sorts of good things to eat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tude View Post
    Ya know, I've thought about as I go for days or couple of weeks without meat (especially in the past couple months) - basically making sure I get my proteins in fish, tofu (which I like ... but a whole lot), nuts, and the veggies that contain protein, plus soy products. But it's not a diet that I plan - it's just how I prefer to eat, cause I'd love a good steak once in a while, Love a nice smoked pork plate - and oh fa-reakin' YUM - one of the four types of liverwursts sold by my favorite German market. I just don't eat them too much anymore, but enjoy them when I do! Not too many eggs either as for some stoopid reason eggs - scrambled only and bananas (of all things) mess with my stomach. Tomatoes, hot sauce - freaking hotter than hell habaneros that I add at least 2 plus another 2 thai chilis to my serving of curry ... don't bother me. Nope, it's bananas.

    Anyways, I just consider that I imagine that I eat healthier - but am not a vegetarian due to my once in a while enjoyment of meat.

    However, I'm also friends who are vegetarians as well as a couple of vegans and we have a very nice organic grocery store near me that is sooooo nice! Look for one of them and you can lose yourself in there finding all sorts of good things to eat!
    Oh darn, now I've got a craving for liverwurst on german rye. hmmmm meat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    But if I become a vegetarian, I can brag about it to all my friends.
    Ok then, one McGriddle coming up for you in the am!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomcow2 View Post
    Your lack of desire to prepare meat is not really a good reason to officially say you'll become a vegetarian. Eat meat when the opportunity presents itself, and when you want to.
    I have the feeling you're not a real cow.

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    No, don't become a vegetarian. Just eat meat when you feel like it. And I totally agree. Vegetables taste way better.

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    Try to eat only free-range vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianjk View Post
    Try to eat only free-range vegetables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadiyah View Post
    Vegetables taste way better.
    especially raw, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    The last time I ate meat was about two weeks ago when my parents visited me and I got chicken alfredo at Applebees. The last time I ate meat before that was a hamburger about a month ago. My meals usually consist of some kind of pasta or rice or potatoes and some vegetables. (I do eat dairy products).

    Should I officially become a vegetarian and try to avoid all meat? Or should I still eat meat occasionally (such as at restaurants)?

    Are any of you Foosters vegetarians? Any advice/opinions? What are some of your favorite meals to cook?
    i don't think you should avoid meat. i do think you should avoid applebee's
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    "I am not a vegetarian because I love animals; I am a vegetarian because I hate plants." -A. Whitney Brown

    Seriously, though, why would you consider becoming a vegetarian? There are many reasons, including ethical, environmental, health, personal preference, financial, and social.

    It sounds like you are possibly a mix between personal preference and social as far as reasons. I find social to be one of the least sustainable reasons to become vegetarian. Nobody I know who went veggie because they thought it was hip has remained veggie over time.

    I'm vegan, and one trait that I think most vegetarians and vegans share is stubbornness. You have to be committed to your reasons (whatever they are) to stick with it, at least in this society.

    My initial reasons were personal preference, I never liked meat. Then I gave up dairy for health reasons (I am both allergic to dairy and lactose intolerant). Now I am more aware of the issues in factory farming, I would also add environmental and ethical to my list of reasons.

    I think in general it is easiest for most people to make the transition gradually. Furthermore, I think people can make a big difference on the ethical and environmental side without becoming vegetarian by: 1) being aware, 2) eating vegan/veggie meals when they can, even if it's only once in a while, and 3) being supportive instead of antagonistic to vegans/vegetarians.

    By the way, I strongly believe that everyone should eat what they want, I don't comment on other people's food habits and I expect similar courtesy in return. I don't try to "convert" people.

    PM me if you want more info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    especially raw, right?
    Yes I hate steamed veggies.


    I don't like steak and I don't really like chicken or eggs but I still eat meat.

    Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Oh darn, now I've got a craving for liverwurst on german rye. hmmmm meat
    The man who used to own the market retired to South Africa (he's German) and he sold the store VERY carefully to a couple who would keep the family recipe's secret and prospering - and they have - including adding items. MmmMmmMM German deli. And they serve lunch to the now elderly Germans who still live there (my Grandmother used to go there) - pork/gravy, speatzle, purple cabbage, and a german potato salad that rivels mine, my mother's and grandmothers (um, no - there's no raisins or applesauce in that stuff). And the liverwurst - 3 different grinds of spices - along with a harder version of it - rather salami-ish. I prefer the coarse grind.

    Oh my, hehe, and I just wrote all this liverygoodness in a potential vegetarian thread.

    (oh, one thing though, I was taken on tour to the back of the place - which essentially is a huge smokehouse - but where they simmer the liverswurst - and view what goes in ... ya don't want to do that. Enjoy what ya see in the meat case!

    Oh, sorry ... vegetarian ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    But if I become a vegetarian, I can brag about it to all my friends.
    Going veggie just for the label is incredibly lame. Eat what you want. If you end up eating no meat, fine, but don't do it to be "cool," because you ain't cool if that's the reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
    By the way, I strongly believe that everyone should eat what they want, I don't comment on other people's food habits and I expect similar courtesy in return. I don't try to "convert" people.
    Yay! There's nothing more annoying than an evangelizing veggie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonlife View Post
    Yay! There's nothing more annoying than an evangelizing veggie.
    There is: A vegetarian evangelist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    The last time I ate meat was about two weeks ago when my parents visited me and I got chicken alfredo at Applebees. The last time I ate meat before that was a hamburger about a month ago. My meals usually consist of some kind of pasta or rice or potatoes and some vegetables. (I do eat dairy products).

    Should I officially become a vegetarian and try to avoid all meat? Or should I still eat meat occasionally (such as at restaurants)?

    Are any of you Foosters vegetarians? Any advice/opinions? What are some of your favorite meals to cook?
    If you feel any ethical obligation to become a vegetarian, then do it. As it stands, it doesn't look like you're setting yourself up for a coronary, or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tude View Post
    The man who used to own the market retired to South Africa (he's German) and he sold the store VERY carefully to a couple who would keep the family recipe's secret and prospering - and they have - including adding items. MmmMmmMM German deli. And they serve lunch to the now elderly Germans who still live there (my Grandmother used to go there) - pork/gravy, speatzle, purple cabbage, and a german potato salad that rivels mine, my mother's and grandmothers (um, no - there's no raisins or applesauce in that stuff). And the liverwurst - 3 different grinds of spices - along with a harder version of it - rather salami-ish. I prefer the coarse grind.

    Oh my, hehe, and I just wrote all this liverygoodness in a potential vegetarian thread.

    (oh, one thing though, I was taken on tour to the back of the place - which essentially is a huge smokehouse - but where they simmer the liverswurst - and view what goes in ... ya don't want to do that. Enjoy what ya see in the meat case!


    Oh, sorry ... vegetarian ....
    Stop it!!! It's 10:30pm here and I still haven't had supper yet

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    It's not a single big choice. It's a series of small choices you make when you decide what you're going to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
    [I]By the way, I strongly believe that everyone should eat what they want, I don't comment on other people's food habits and I expect similar courtesy in return. I don't try to "convert" people.
    Well said. As a long-time vegetarian (for most of 30 years), nothing annoys me more than the assumption that I (and other vegetarians and vegans as well) am out to convert people or have a haughty attitude. Second most annoying thing- when non-vegetarians say "well, that's how most of you guys are." What a crock. I've very rarely met a vegetarian or a vegan who exhibits these nasty traits. I dare say that the overwhelming majority of us keep our eating habits and the reasons for them to ourselves.

    Anyway, Taerom- I agree with everyone on here- it doesn't sound like you're committed to this, and guess what? You don't need to be- eat what you want/need and have fun. Ain't nuttin' worse than a miserable vegetarian/vegan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    What are some of your favorite meals to cook?
    We eat pasta ~2-3 times/week; a fair amount of bean dishes (chili, casseroles, bean salads, etc., etc.); tofu, tempeh, seitan (all are good in stir fries, and being from Philly, I'm here to tell you that a seitan cheese "steak" is awesome); and little bit of the fake "meat" stuff- Yves makes excellent "cold cuts" for when you just have to have a quick sandwich, and there's Boca burgers and Morningstar Farms sausage. If you have a Trader Joe's near you, you'll have plenty of options grocery-wise.

    I generally wing it in the kitchen- I get a rush from doing the "ready-set-cook" thing, but if I had to have only one cookbook, I'd keep either my Vegetarian Times Low-Fat cookbook or Moosewood's Low-Fat Favorites. Mollie Katzen's Vegetable Heaven is also excellent, as is Goldbeck's Whole Foods Cookbook (like a Joy of Cooking for vegetarians). And don't overlook the interwebs- lots of really excellent recipes for free!

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