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Old 03-05-08, 12:50 AM   #1
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computer, laptop question

wondered if maybe someone would know, it's a little weird problem.

I have had this HP nx6110 laptop for a number of years now. It used to have Win XP Pro, and then I had six months of Ubuntu linux on it (no dual boot), and then eventually went back to XP because Ubuntu is too much hassle. Anyway, since I have had it back onto XP, I have had this very nagging error. Generally it would run for a while, and then all of a sudden, all computer functions would freeze with response from keyboard or touchpad input. Originally I attributed to a bad harddrive and went out and replaced one. I have just finished updating the harddrive with all drivers and everything else. it just did it a couple of times in the last two hours.

I wonder if maybe someone knows about this, is this a mobo problem, or something about the USB? I have no clue.

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Old 03-05-08, 06:13 AM   #2
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Sounds like it's time to get a MacBook.
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I'm wondering if its a heat problem. You probably have done this, but I'd check if the fans are working ok, and not too clogged with dust.

Does the Windows Event log have anything pertinent to this? You can access the log from the Run... command prompt by typing in "eventvwr".
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Sounds similar to the issue I had on my older HP laptop under Windows XP. Never got it resolved to my satisfaction with the warranty company. I suspected either a flaw in the board, or heat, or one causing the other.
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I'm guessing a heat issue too.
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I wonder if a fresh install doesn't get your chipset drivers for the motherboard??
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Update the bios, perhaps? Although it is probably a heat issue.
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Older HPs had a known motherboard issue that would produce the symptoms you're describing. I've seen it myself, in fact. Just locks right up.
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What programs are running when it freezes?

A overheated processor should cause a complete shut down but it never hurts to keep those vents clear and the processor cool.
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in fact I looked at some posts online today, the particular model that i have, the NX6110, has a chip of some kind under or near the touchpad. As the pressure on the touchpad increase, it causes an error where the computer locks up. I read it, not sure if that's what the problem is, however, that seems to be closest to what have been happening. I cranked up the sensitivity on the touchpad so that I only have to touch it for it to move. Anyway, hasn't happened all day.
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If that is the problem then you can get an external mouse/touch pad.
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Or you can figure out how to keep the touchpad from touching the processor in question.
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wondered if maybe someone would know, it's a little weird problem.

I have had this HP nx6110 laptop for a number of years now. It used to have Win XP Pro, and then I had six months of Ubuntu linux on it (no dual boot), and then eventually went back to XP because Ubuntu is too much hassle. Anyway, since I have had it back onto XP, I have had this very nagging error. Generally it would run for a while, and then all of a sudden, all computer functions would freeze with response from keyboard or touchpad input. Originally I attributed to a bad harddrive and went out and replaced one. I have just finished updating the harddrive with all drivers and everything else. it just did it a couple of times in the last two hours.

I wonder if maybe someone knows about this, is this a mobo problem, or something about the USB? I have no clue.

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I'm sorry to read that you were not happy with Ubuntu as I have been EXTREMELY happy with it on my computers.
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Hey Tri just curious but did you get the same problem in Ubuntu? What was the hassel you had using that? One of the first things I often will do when trouble shooting Win problems is load Knoppix which is also a Debian based Linux distribution. If it does not freeze in Linux then most likely it's not a hardware problem.
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No no, the touchpad problem only started a couple of weeks ago, coincidentally after I reinstalled Win XP (however I am not inclined to believe that the problem is OS generated).

I switched to Ubuntu months ago, having gone through Fawn, Gibbons and Drake LTS on my laptop. I figured I should take the plunge and see what its like. I liked it at first because there was no spyware and virus, nothing, I just turn it on and go. However, after some months on, things that I originally attributed to Ubuntu's quirks started to bug me, namely it's ability to stream online media, wireless signal compliance and the load cycle problems. I will give some detail explanation below.

Most online sites can't stream through Ubuntu, it will play ten, fifteen second bursts of video followed by nothing. The problem comes to it not being able to stream and play at the same time, so when it plays it doesn't stream, and when it's dl'ing it doesn't play, leading to extremely choppy videos.

The wireless strength also was very very sporadic. I had to use NDiswapper in order get my Broadcom antenna to work, and while sitting 6' away from wireless router, I get 78% strength. I go to school where there is wireless internet throughout the campus, while my colleagues can be online looking at powerpoint, I am sitting there waiting for it to find teh network. I also find the keyring lock extremely annoying.

The final thing has to do with a document I read on Slashdot. There was some rumour that ubuntu handling of HDD load cycles dramatically shortens its life. No solutions out there cures the problem without causing something else to screw up. So it's like dating someone who is gorgeous and right for you in every way, just the presence of a terminal brain tumour sorta pisses on teh whole situation.

For those reasons, and the fact that most of my usage on my laptop is word processing and day-to-day computer processing, I decided to change back to Win XP. I tip my hat to Ubuntu and the makers of it, as being very user friendly for a free product but as I have a volume license of WinXP I see no reason I should not make my life easier.

So that's the reason, comments? I realize some would call me a quitter and I am prepared to acknowledge that claim.
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Hey buddy! How are you doing? Whats' going on? Yeah I know, life generally throw curveballs at you when you are in your late 20s.
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So that's the reason, comments? I realize some would call me a quitter and I am prepared to acknowledge that claim.
No worries from me. I still have a virtual machine w/ Win XP on it on my Ubuntu desktop at work simly because there are a few things that are a must have Win application. But I never had a problem with wireless and Totem is the program that works best with streaming. Ubuntu does have issues with some wireless connections but I never had a problem with the hardware not working properly once connected.

So yeah it sounds like a coincidence. But I'd still boot up Ubuntu from the CD, play around a bit, and see if you get the same problem to know for sure.
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No no, the touchpad problem only started a couple of weeks ago, coincidentally after I reinstalled Win XP (however I am not inclined to believe that the problem is OS generated).

I switched to Ubuntu months ago, having gone through Fawn, Gibbons and Drake LTS on my laptop. I figured I should take the plunge and see what its like. I liked it at first because there was no spyware and virus, nothing, I just turn it on and go. However, after some months on, things that I originally attributed to Ubuntu's quirks started to bug me, namely it's ability to stream online media, wireless signal compliance and the load cycle problems. I will give some detail explanation below.

Most online sites can't stream through Ubuntu, it will play ten, fifteen second bursts of video followed by nothing. The problem comes to it not being able to stream and play at the same time, so when it plays it doesn't stream, and when it's dl'ing it doesn't play, leading to extremely choppy videos.

The wireless strength also was very very sporadic. I had to use NDiswapper in order get my Broadcom antenna to work, and while sitting 6' away from wireless router, I get 78% strength. I go to school where there is wireless internet throughout the campus, while my colleagues can be online looking at powerpoint, I am sitting there waiting for it to find teh network. I also find the keyring lock extremely annoying.

The final thing has to do with a document I read on Slashdot. There was some rumour that ubuntu handling of HDD load cycles dramatically shortens its life. No solutions out there cures the problem without causing something else to screw up. So it's like dating someone who is gorgeous and right for you in every way, just the presence of a terminal brain tumour sorta pisses on teh whole situation.

For those reasons, and the fact that most of my usage on my laptop is word processing and day-to-day computer processing, I decided to change back to Win XP. I tip my hat to Ubuntu and the makers of it, as being very user friendly for a free product but as I have a volume license of WinXP I see no reason I should not make my life easier.

So that's the reason, comments? I realize some would call me a quitter and I am prepared to acknowledge that claim.
I'm assuming that you added the medibuntu repositories on the 32 bit version? Then it's just a matter of finding the right media player that works with those codecs.

I've noticed that Ubuntu now works extremely well with wireless cards although it indicates otherwise.

Anyway, I'm currently back on XP too because Ubuntu hasn't caught up with the vid/audio stuff in my new laptop. I'll try out the next release in April.

Mint is a little more media friendly as are Suse and Mandriva. PCLinuxOS and MEPIS are also worth a look although I do not like KDE. I hope these OSs develop Gnome branches soon.
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