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Old 03-05-08, 05:16 PM   #1
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OT: Automatic Wristwatch. . .

I used to have this fascination with fine automatic (self-winding)
wristwatches. . .my fascination went from Rolex to Cartier to
Panerai. I never owned one except for a really basic
auto with an ETA movement or something like that. . .then it disappeared.
Now I have this quartz-movement wristwatch but the stainless steel
is rubbing off to reveal brass. . .is it possible to get a very simple
stainless steel watch for not a ton of cash? No bling, just auto-winding
and stainless steel . . . no battery.
any watch aficionados?

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Not knowing your budget, Omega has solid stainless and automatic as well as quartz movemets. However, if solid stainless construction and not having to replace batteries are the main priorities try Citizen Eco-Drives, more budget minded than Omega. I've had my Citizen for over six years, never missed a beat.

Additionally, it is on my wrist 24-7. Awake, asleep, shower, swimming, yard work . . .

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Not in anyone's but a sheik's budget but cool nonetheless.

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/
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Most amazing watch and clock makers I've ever seen. Among other things they make clocks powered by air pressure. The original, The Beverly Clock, "has been running continuously without the need to be wound up since its construction in 1864 by Arthur Beverly." Wiki

http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200503149532
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A close up of a Jaeger-LeCoultre wrist watch, and it's maker.
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Not in anyone's but a sheik's budget but cool nonetheless.

http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/
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Most amazing watch and clock makers I've ever seen. Among other things they make clocks powered by air pressure. The original, The Beverly Clock, "has been running continuously without the need to be wound up since its construction in 1864 by Arthur Beverly." Wiki

http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200503149532
^^^
A close up of a Jaeger-LeCoultre wrist watch, and it's maker.
The JC line is nice. If I was in that market I'd probably get the Panerai. . .
the Citizen is more like it. Simple, not too flashy.
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I used to have this fascination with fine automatic (self-winding)
wristwatches. . .my fascination went from Rolex to Cartier to
Panerai. I never owned one except for a really basic
auto with an ETA movement or something like that. . .then it disappeared.
Now I have this quartz-movement wristwatch but the stainless steel
is rubbing off to reveal brass. . .
is it possible to get a very simple
stainless steel watch for not a ton of cash? No bling, just auto-winding
and stainless steel . . . no battery.
any watch aficionados?
yes.

does it have to be swiss, or is japanese adequate? seiko has some fantastic automatics, that are very affordable.
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If you want a fine, swiss made, automatic watch look for a stainless Tudor. In reality, it's a Rolex without the Rolex name and huge price tag. Look for a good used model. I've got a Tudor from the 1940's that still runs well. You might even be able to pick up a used Rolex Date. Mine is from around 1962 and is worn daily. I bought it from a car dealer who took it in on trade on a Lincoln Town Car. I've had it for 18 years and other than routine maintence every 5 or 6 years it has run like a champ. Unfortunately it was damged when I had a little run in with a cab so it's going in for repairs. Take a look at this web page for more information on Tudors.

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If you want a fine, swiss made, automatic watch look for a stainless Tudor. In reality, it's a Rolex without the Rolex name and huge price tag. Look for a good used model. I've got a Tudor from the 1940's that still runs well. You might even be able to pick up a used Rolex Date. Mine is from around 1962 and is worn daily. I bought it from a car dealer who took it in on trade on a Lincoln Town Car. I've had it for 18 years and other than routine maintence every 5 or 6 years it has run like a champ. Unfortunately it was damged when I had a little run in with a cab so it's going in for repairs. Take a look at this web page for more information on Tudors.

h ttp://hubpages.com/hub/Rolex_Tudor
no longer sold in the US, unless you want to go pre-owned.
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I used to have this fascination with fine automatic (self-winding)
wristwatches. . .my fascination went from Rolex to Cartier to
Panerai. I never owned one except for a really basic
auto with an ETA movement or something like that. . .then it disappeared.
Now I have this quartz-movement wristwatch but the stainless steel
is rubbing off to reveal brass. . .is it possible to get a very simple
stainless steel watch for not a ton of cash? No bling, just auto-winding
and stainless steel . . . no battery.
any watch aficionados?

I still have a fascination with fine automatic wristwatches. I have a lot of watches, many automatic, all bought used. Some were in fine, working condition when purchased. Others were, literally, dug out of the bottom of a junk jewellery box in a second hand store or yard sale and bought for a few dollars. While it cost hundreds to have them cleaned and repaired they are worth far more than I ever spent on having brought back to working condition. It's also a nice feeling to know that the watch the other guy spent $1500 - $8000 for new, cost you only 15-20% of that.
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I always considered Rolex to be bling for the ignorant. Not to knock anyone on here, but they're frequently worn by guys that buy for the name, and nothing more. There are so many other brands out there that have nicer looking watches, with movements at least as good.

Botto, I know you don't think much of Baume & Mercier, but what about the likes of Chase Durer, and Invicta?
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no longer sold in the US, unless you want to go pre-owned.
Really? Too bad. I got mine in Canada about 20 years ago, but then it was pre-owned. If you can find one used, it's a great watch.
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I always considered Rolex to be bling for the ignorant.

Not to knock anyone on here, but they're frequently worn by guys that buy for the name, and nothing more. There are so many other brands out there that have nicer looking watches, with movements at least as good.
uninformed is more appropriate.

that 'said', they're a good watch. probably the best 3K watch that can be bought for 5K.

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Botto, I know you don't think much of Baume & Mercier, but what about the likes of Chase Durer, and Invicta?
Invicta? Cheap trash.

Let me show you a picture of what erader did to an Invicta he had.

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Really? Too bad. I got mine in Canada about 20 years ago, but then it was pre-owned. If you can find one used, it's a great watch.
iirc still sold in canada.
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You could also look at Bucherer. I've got two. One automatic and one winder from the 60s. A nice dressy watch when worn with a black leather wrist strap. Look around for a used one. Swiss made and from what I've seen, not very expensive.
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yes.

does it have to be swiss, or is japanese adequate? seiko has some fantastic automatics, that are very affordable.
I like the Seiko watches. I've heard they are durable and they have clean lines.
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Here's an automatic Bucherer, 18k gold case though for around $300.00. Just an example. A stainless model is way cheaper used and it still has a swiss made movement.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/VINTAGE-BUCHERER-...QQcmdZViewItem
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uninformed is more appropriate.

that 'said', they're a good watch. probably the best 3K watch that can be bought for 5K.
That sums it up well.

I've taken to wearing my B&M, as my old Seamaster needs a service, and my Chase Durer gave up the ghost due to a seal getting damaged by a careless jeweler. Since it's really more of a dress watch, I picked up an Invicta automatic for my daily "disposable" watch, as a replacement for the Chase Durer. My short list includes another Movado and the Tissot Navigator World Time, not for any particular reason. I've got other things to spend my money on, but I still keep an eye out for a Seiko auto diver's watch to throw in the collection.
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Botto, I know you don't think much of Baume & Mercier
What don't you like about them? I've got one. It's a wind up. No problems with it. If I remember correctly, I paid $2.50 for it in a second hand store and and spent another $125 getting it repaired/cleaned. No problems with it. I don't wear it much though. I've just got too many vintage watches and not enough arm space to wear them.
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I like the Seiko watches. I've heard they are durable and they have clean lines.
extremely durable.

here's a 36 year old watch, that i'm wearing at the moment, bought off of ebay 3 years ago for $105, and as far as i know hasn't been serviced ever (not that i recommend doing that), and it still keeps great time.



here's a contemporary seiko diver that i've been eying for 2 years.

a "seiko samurai" available for 328$ from this extremely reliable seller in Japan.

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What don't you like about them? I've got one. It's a wind up. No problems with it. If I remember correctly, I paid $2.50 for it in a second hand store and and spent another $125 getting it repaired/cleaned. No problems with it. I don't wear it much though. I've just got too many vintage watches and not enough arm space to wear them.
too fussy.
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That sums it up well.

I've taken to wearing my B&M, as my old Seamaster needs a service, and my Chase Durer gave up the ghost due to a seal getting damaged by a careless jeweler. Since it's really more of a dress watch, I picked up an Invicta automatic for my daily "disposable" watch, as a replacement for the Chase Durer. My short list includes another Movado and the Tissot Navigator World Time, not for any particular reason. I've got other things to spend my money on, but
I still keep an eye out for a Seiko auto diver's watch to throw in the collection.
what's your budget? seiko makes some great ones (see the samurai i linked in the thread).
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I think I may be sold on the Seiko Samurai.
It has the simple and rugged look I want.
There are lots of Swiss mechanical watches
that are reasonably priced but they are a little
too dressy.

I was thinking $300 to $600--something that
is durable and can take some abuse but will last.
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uninformed is more appropriate.

that 'said', they're a good watch. probably the best 3K watch that can be bought for 5K.

I agree that Rolexes are overpriced. They've got to pay for that advertising budget and all those sponsorships somehow. When the price is right on a pre-owned though it presents an opportunity to buy a watch that will still be running when your grandkids inherit it.
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what's your budget? seiko makes some great ones (see the samurai i linked in the thread).
Budget? I'm not familiar with that word. I'm usually more concerned with finding just the right style than the price, and I like the samurai for its spare design. Are the links polished?

What's fussy about the B&M?

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BTW thanks for the tip. Some day I may have a Panerai--
but I just can't see spending that kind of money on a watch instead
of a custom bike :-)
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