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Old 04-09-08, 01:31 AM   #1
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holy crap, i am freaking out. am i wrong? someone help me out.

i've decided tonight that i need to take a leave of absence from university this quarter. there are a number of reasons for this, although, i can't say i've thought this through really. it's a rash decision, but i think better sooner than later.

there are two reasons

1) i'm presently burned out with. stressed out. i'm well on my way to completing my mathematics degree, but i just need a change in my life. i've taken a year off before and gone back to school successfully, and i have a good GPA 3.4, so i know i can come back if i put my mind to it.

2) my job(s). i basically have three separate work obligations which are pulling me in separate directions at all time. i'm overwhelmed. i'm a web developer by trade, but i'm also working as a partner in a small startup company, and we're gearing up a product for VC funding. the process is exhausting and demands a lot more out of me than i think i can do reliably while going to school.

3) my mind. all of the above has led me to some serious depression as of recent. i have been in therapy and it is very helpful, but i think i need to cut out some stress in my life if i'm going to succeed in my business.

4) my bank account. due to the above, i've been going to school as a part time student, meaning my living expenses are as high as they would be if i were a full time student, but i'm making slower progress toward graduating. this makes the whole schooling process about 50% more expensive while i'm enrolled. the income from my jobs is insufficient to offset the extra money i'm paying. my bank account balance is slowly but surely dwindling.

my biggest fear is that i might not go back if this project really takes off. but it's now or never. oh jesus i'm going crazy.

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As a veteran of several startup companies, I know that it's a very stressful way to live, but it's also one that's potentially very lucrative. I once read about a guy that dropped out of college to work on his startup company and never returned to school to finish his degree. Does the name "Bill Gates" ring a bell?

I wouldn't worry too much about not going back. If you're determined to get your degree, I'm sure you'll find the time when things calm down a bit. If you really think this startup will go somewhere, focus your energies there. Can you imagine how sick you'd feel if you left and shortly after, the company took off? Kind of like Pete Best (the 5th Beatle).
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Old 04-09-08, 06:15 AM   #3
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It's strange that you'd take a leave of absence three weeks before the end of the semester - especially if it's part time. Those would turn to W's and you'd have to retake the classes spending even more money. Unless you weren't doing well and wanted to avoid the grades...
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Old 04-09-08, 06:29 AM   #4
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the university of california is on the quarter system, and we just started last week. i just realized that i can't take the pressure.
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The main reasons for getting a degree as I see them are:

1) Because it is just the thing to do.

2) Love of the education.

3) To get the best job possible.

#1 should never be used as a reason to go through formal education... Unless 2 or 3 are the focus, then I think that formal education is just a money pit.

#2 seems to be lacking right now...

#3 doesn't make sense if it is inhibiting your career currently...

As a 50 year old math major, I can relate at some level... and an interesting coincidence.

I am finishing this term, and re-evaluating my academic direction. And my psychologist (who I went to for depression) thinks I need to drop out for now if I really want to get better, so that is also a major factor.

However, only you know what really needs to be done. The bottom line is if you make a good living, and are happy, the degree might be secondary.
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the university of california is on the quarter system, and we just started last week. i just realized that i can't take the pressure.
Ahhh - different story Take it within the first week to get 100% back. Sounds like you could use a breather, nothing wrong with that.
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As a veteran of several startup companies, I know that it's a very stressful way to live, but it's also one that's potentially very lucrative. I once read about a guy that dropped out of college to work on his startup company and never returned to school to finish his degree. Does the name "Bill Gates" ring a bell?

I wouldn't worry too much about not going back. If you're determined to get your degree, I'm sure you'll find the time when things calm down a bit. If you really think this startup will go somewhere, focus your energies there. Can you imagine how sick you'd feel if you left and shortly after, the company took off? Kind of like Pete Best (the 5th Beatle).
What Sprocket Man said. If you want it bad enough - you'll do it. So it may go slower (not sure if you're full time or not) - but you'll do it. Having less stress in one's life is better than being an over achiever ---much healthier!
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Ahhh - different story Take it within the first week to get 100% back. Sounds like you could use a breather, nothing wrong with that.
bah, yeah. now it's 50% back. but whatever, i'd rather lose a little money than fail out of school or ruin my shot at getting this business off the ground.
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I don't know how people could work one job and go to school never mind 3. Quit the school and go for a ride then get back to work!
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Just keep in mind while making this decision that many new businesses do ultimately fail. Even securing VC funding is no guarantee of success. But if you have too much on your plate, then you're in the best position to decide what goes. Good luck.
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bah, yeah. now it's 50% back. but whatever, i'd rather lose a little money than fail out of school or ruin my shot at getting this business off the ground.
If you were older you wouldn't sweat failing either.

I am not doing nearly as well (grade wise) as I did to get my associates, but I am learning a lot more. I learned more when I failed last term's Abstract Algebra than I have learned in other classes while getting an A.

BTW - I haven't figured it out completely for myself, but I am curious what do you plan to do with your math degree?
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the university of california is on the quarter system, and we just started last week. i just realized that i can't take the pressure.
Pressure only increases. I would continue with your education perhaps at a different pace, I was able to cram 4 years into 5. If you have any type of loans taken out for school, it would suck to have to start paying those with out anything to show for it.

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+1 on finishing up school. A lot of people get frustrated later in life by working on a degree, quitting to work, then having to pay $1000 a month on loans for "nothing".

Its your decision, and yes, this is a *very hard* decision. The degree is a safe bet, but you will be kicking yourself if the company becomes the next Apple.
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the university of california is on the quarter system, and we just started last week. i just realized that i can't take the pressure.
Oh hai there fellow UC person.

Heck, I think the quarter system is a lot of pressure, and I'm not working at all--much less working 3 jobs, going to therapy, and getting a business off its feet! I think that if you really feel you can't handle this quarter, take it off, lose half your money, and concentrate on getting yourself steady.
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