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Old 04-22-08, 11:42 AM   #1
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Alright, foo this is a question that involves creativity, skill, and general lack of logic, for the situation is lacking in logic.

How do I fit a set of rollers, a road bike, a mountainbike, a ladies roadbike, an extra wheelset, and a toolbox into a 3x10 space, that (apart from the bikes) should not exceed the height of a couch?

Yes Im trying to fit my crap behind the couch. If you saw how tiny my apartment was, you would agree its the only way.

The rollers im still thining of buying (they seem great and i know where to get some...) and the ladies bike is coming soon (getting the gf into riding, wooooo). Im thinking, rollers behind couch, road bikes on rollers, mountain bike minus wheels somehow rigged in between them, and then the rest piled around it.

Anyone? Help? Methods that have worked in past? What to tell my girlfriend when she realises whats back there??
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get a huge couch
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Put one in the bedroom. You can do it. I have three in my bedroom. And three in the living room. And one on the porch behind the bench. And a bunch in the garage. And in the storage thingy I bought for the bikes...

Oh man. I need to downsize. Or get a bigger house.

Yeah. Get a bigger house. That's it.
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Ditch the couch. You can lounge on the rollers.
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hang everthing on the walls, including the couch.
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Are you trying for some sort of aesthetic, in keeping it all hidden? having the couch sitting far out from the wall with a half-hidden pile of stuff behind it will look far worse than an organized storage rack in plain view.

Get one of those wall-racks that doesn't need to be bolted to the wall, and hang the bikes one above the other. Turn the rollers on their side and slide them, the wheels, and the toolbox between the bottom bike and the couch. You might even be able to get the toolbox on a shelf of the bike rack if it's not too heavy.
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The obvious choice is to use an industrial compactor. Barring that, you can always hang bikes from the ceiling. Positioned properly, they can be quite the artistic statement.
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hm, noted. compacting, then separating into piles, and hanging the lot off the walls seems excellent...

and uhm the behind couch thing is kinda weird, but heres the breakdown. My apartment is so small, the kitchen is part of the living room which is also the hall , there is a tiny tiny entryway sort of closet-sized actual hall space into the apartment. the windows by the kitchen, away from the door. the bedroom is also the closet where all the clothes are, and fits a double bed with about four feet of clearance around it on two sides, the bedroom is also the only route to the bathroom.

the couches are arranged in an L shape, and at this point are sort of in the middle of the "greatroom" as i call it. ive put my bike and whatnot agaisnt the wall behind this "L" of couches. anywhere else theres either a bookshelf, a TV, a window, the kitchen table, or the kitchen, or the fridge. Only wallspace. And if the couches are completely back against the wall, the bike impedes entry via the tiny tiny hallway.

the rack sounds good, but id have to get one that can fit the corner pretty neatly. will look around for that one..

ill upload a floor plan later when the boss isnt looking, you'll see.

i cant put bikes in the hall... the bedroom is to small, the kitchens in the den, and in the den the bikes must fall.
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Sell the furniture. Buy trainers. Mount bikes in trainers. Leave one bike on the rollers. If you actually have friends, and they ever come over, ya'll can have a trainer party.
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Uhm, on the right is bedroom which goes into bathroom. this is pretty accurate. sadly.
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Get a flat screen TV with a wall mount and TV trays.
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Build a loft platform for your bed, just tall enough to get your tallest bike under there. Store bikes under bed.
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these are the reasons i ask foo these questions.

and loftbed would work, but clothes hang on to bed, clost=bed. loftbed wouldnt work methinks.

im considering a hammock, girlfriend likes the idea. i think hammock. but she disapproves of me sleeping with bikes, says its creepy or something. i dunno, shes weird.
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iin all seriousness though, i could fit two road bikes in the bIKEZ section, and im thinking if i pull the front wheel off my trail bike she could sneak in there somewhere into a bike orgy. it just seems it would be a pain pulling it apart to get at the bike every morning.

do you hang your bikes? how does that work out? ive got a paitning up there, but id gladly replace it with a bike.
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I have been interested in one of these, you might look into one. Bike storage
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Get a long 2 x 4. Install storage hooks in it to hang bikes by wheels. Find studs in ceiling. Screw 2 x 4 to studs in three or four places. When you are ready to move out, remove the screws and you only have a few small holes in the ceiling to fill with white toothpaste.
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Get a long 2 x 4. Install storage hooks in it to hang bikes by wheels. Find studs in ceiling. Screw 2 x 4 to studs in three or four places. When you are ready to move out, remove the screws and you only have a few small holes in the ceiling to fill with white toothpaste.
crap this is the kind of thing that kills me, if it were up to me id put three racks on the walls and hang the bikes up, but the girlfriend really doesnt get why bikes are so sexy, and is paranoid about damaging/chaning the apartment because the lease is under her name, yada yada.

it needs to be a really low impact solution, that little wheely rack seems really clever, but id have to check what kind of clearance it has again.

oh, + its an old building and the partition walls are brick and concrete, except the room dividers, even getting a nail in to hang a picture gets hairy. ceiling is likely a méme situation.

access and compactness are key
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What if you got a really cool rug or something to hang in front of the bikes?
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What if you got a really cool rug or something to hang in front of the bikes?
+1 or one of those chinese screens, ive been thinking about that alley as well, but im worried it will make the partment feel even smaller than it already is
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crap this is the kind of thing that kills me, if it were up to me id put three racks on the walls and hang the bikes up, but the girlfriend really doesnt get why bikes are so sexy, and is paranoid about damaging/chaning the apartment because the lease is under her name, yada yada.

it needs to be a really low impact solution, that little wheely rack seems really clever, but id have to check what kind of clearance it has again.

oh, + its an old building and the partition walls are brick and concrete, except the room dividers, even getting a nail in to hang a picture gets hairy. ceiling is likely a méme situation.

access and compactness are key
The rack I posted is pretty compact, dense and mobile you might be able to fit it in your room and like Jsharr said put a cover over it.
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+1 or one of those chinese screens, ive been thinking about that alley as well, but im worried it will make the partment feel even smaller than it already is
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i like it, but S&H is seventy bucks for me!

however the idea is excellent, i will look into constructing one perhaps, with some manner of folding mechanism for moving..
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i like it, but S&H is seventy bucks for me!

however the idea is excellent, i will look into constructing one perhaps, with some manner of folding mechanism for moving..
If you do, post some pic's I would be interested in seeing it.
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If you do, post some pic's I would be interested in seeing it.
most definately, if i get around to it ill start a thread a-la wooden fenders. but for now i think the best solution weve collectively come to is some form of compact rack and a screen/rug.

im going to see if i can find a nice screen at IKEA or something, and start to draft up a useful rack. im thinking it would be awesome if i built it out of a few bent-up frames or something, make it into a cool sculture while it still being a rack. but thats just pre-project brainstorming.
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hang bikes from ceiling? Put couches on storage boxes - they'll be a bit higher off the ground, but a foot or so of storage space beneath them might come in handy - you could do the same thing to your bed.
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