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    Why do you have a website?

    apologies to those of you who don't have websites... For those of you with websites, I'm wondering why you have one. We have one, and honestly can't figure out why we do - it just sounded like a good idea. With all the free blogging and photo sites around, why would a traveller get their own website?
    WE DID IT! Our little family of four cycled 17,300 miles from Alaska to Argentina! The trip of a lifetime for sure. www.familyonbikes.org

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    It's a bit like a garden. It's a combination of ego, pastime and, most importantly, passing on pleasure (information) to other people. However, also like a garden, you have to tend to it, assist it to grow with new content, and renew the old content and appearance from time to time.

    And unlike the blogging and photo websites, you aren't limited by rules, except maybe on total site size. You pays your dollars and you can do what you like. You own it and provided you are careful with your security (and the server owners are too) your stuff is much safer there.

    Your website name is yours, and often is easy to remember for people who want to keep track of you. Or they can completely irgnore you

    Plus, going back to the garden, if you pay for the site, you more or less impose an obligation on yourself to maintain it. If you look at the touring rigs thread in the Touring forum, you will find many, many links are broken because they go to various free blogging and photo sites, and there is no clue as to what has happened. That's less likely on your own patch.

    Says I who hasn't touched his own website for 12 month (I must do something about that....)
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    because it allows me to organize all my stuff in one place.

    and when someone ask me "why didnt you tell me x,y,z,"
    i can say "why did you check my website"
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    So I can write my pointless blog entries that nobody reads and nobody gives a **** about. Just like all the other 2 billion people who have worthless blogs and think that their writing is somehow special because it's on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    So I can write my pointless blog entries that nobody reads and nobody gives a **** about. Just like all the other 2 billion people who have worthless blogs and think that their writing is somehow special because it's on the internet.
    Why does this ring so true??
    WE DID IT! Our little family of four cycled 17,300 miles from Alaska to Argentina! The trip of a lifetime for sure. www.familyonbikes.org

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    I'm not a blogger and I don't ever seeing me become one. But, I don't like the blogging software. If I were to start blogging, I would create my own. But more likely, I would rather than set up a blog, I would set up a site with numerous areas. I would rather the programming be mine and set up the way I like it. I would want my own domain, set up the server the way I like it or at least buy some space on a server that is set up the way I want it to be.

    I like to do all the changes of a site on my pc until I have it the way I want it, then scp/ssh everything up to the server.

    But, that's me. Others enjoy blogs and the restrictions of the software and free servers.

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    For a few reasons, one is that I enjoy web programming, and the other is that I enjoy all things bicycle, so I combined my 2 passions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancy sv View Post
    Why does this ring so true??
    Because you have no idea who is your audience.

    With operator's logic, there would be no newspapers, no TV, no radio, no letters... no communication at all.

    Indulgence publishing has been around for centuries. It's just that now, people don't have to pay a small fortune for someone to print 1,000 books, of which 950 will be pulped or go to the dump.

    If you don't know who your audience is, you can't identify what information is useful.

    If your website information is not organised, then whatever audience you may identify, will be reduced.

    Website design has been like desktop publishing when it became available in the 1980s -- everyone instantly knew how to design a newspaper, but couldn't understand why no-one wanted to read what effecively was dog vomit (newspapers designers spent years on their craft for a reason). The same with website design (and the worst offenders are the IT graduates!!)... too much glitz, not enough simplicity.

    As some contrasts, try (on dial-up, because that is the ultimate test) accessing just about any bicycle manufacturer's website, then go to Ken Kifer and Sheldon Brown's sites. Judge from the download speed, and the access to information, and the VALUE of that information which you would return to visit regularly.

    Probably the site that encapsulates all that is being discussed is www.crazyguyonabike.com. In there are some pearls of reading, the sort of stuff you can't put down, and would take to bed with you. But those pearls are very, very rare.

    Then there is stuff that is informational and useful in itself if you are planning a trip of similar proportions or with similar equipment.

    And finally there is ... well, I can't even be nice about it... dross (and large volumes of it), but it might be useful for the tiny audience or family and friends in letting them know the progress of a tour.
    Dream. Dare. Do.

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    also forgot.
    I am a published photog.
    and my business cards have to point somewhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by nancy sv View Post
    apologies to those of you who don't have websites... For those of you with websites, I'm wondering why you have one. We have one, and honestly can't figure out why we do - it just sounded like a good idea. With all the free blogging and photo sites around, why would a traveller get their own website?
    I have one, mostly to show off projects I have and odd pictures or diagrams of things I need to explain. The original content is on my own computer and I have my own mirroring software (Adobe GoLive) so even if the ISP server happens to lose my entire site, I can re-send it in about two minutes.

    I use the included webspace with my local ISP, because I don't want the problems of bandwidth limitations or complex server dependencies that the common photo and web/blog hosting sites have. And I don't always like the presentation methods they use, the file type restrictions they tend to have or the ads they usually include.
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    So I can do $400,000 in Internet business a year. I wouldn't have a vanity site.

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    Software developer. I've written code, I give people the ability to download it. I'm also looking to write some pay-for stuff later.

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    A. I'm doing work in massage, photography, and firedancing and need a place to give people information (business cards point to it).
    B. I'm cooler than pretty much anyone else you know, and need my own corner of the intraweb.
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    Obviously, the guy's like a 12th level white wizard or something. His mere presence is a danger to mortals.

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    I'm with voodoo, to promote my business. My personal stuff is just that, personal, showing it to the world is silly.

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    Cause I want one...

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    I kind of wanted to learn HTML, so I built a website. It was also a place to share photos when I got my camera, as this was shortly before any prepackaged options were available. My parents and friends got used to hearing about things going on in my life through the website, and I got used to writing about it.

    Then I managed to use it to swing an internship that was split lab help and web development, so I further used it as a testing ground for learning PHP and MySQL.

    Now it's kind of a minor side hobby, although I'm building up a major backlog of changes I want to make. I could just go with a prepackaged deal, but that would be too easy.

    As a side note, holy crap I've been getting a lot of spam lately. I wrote a filter that catches ~95% of it, but the rate has been escalating fast. Between January when I implemented it and two weeks ago, I filtered 3300 spam posts. In the last two weeks I got 1700. In the last 24 hours I've gotten about 500 (but only 7 got through)! This is getting old really fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    So I can write my pointless blog entries that nobody reads and nobody gives a **** about. Just like all the other 2 billion people who have worthless blogs and think that their writing is somehow special because it's on the internet.
    Blogs from people who expect the world to listen to them utterly bore me. Even worse are the ones that think you can make money by "blogging." Worst of all are the ones (typically replete with spelling and grammatical errors) that tell you how to make money by blogging by linking to cnet and money.cnn articles about blogging.

    I write for my friends and family, and that's about it. And I never bother to tell the in-depth details of how I decided to put cinnamon on my toast instead of marmalade. Sheesh!
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    I really don't have a public website (I have some that are private, for Exchange web access) because of the following:

    1: I don't have meaningful information that I can update often.
    2: I don't care to make mindless drivel on a blog... I save it for Foo.
    3: My HTML and authoring skills suck in general, as I still use vi as a HTML editor.

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    Thanks everyone!! It soundslike there are about a million different reasons - as I kind of expected...
    WE DID IT! Our little family of four cycled 17,300 miles from Alaska to Argentina! The trip of a lifetime for sure. www.familyonbikes.org

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    I have one 'cause you can't post porn on Myspace.

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    I don't have one. I'd like to get a domain and hosting someday for general use, but I just haven't gotten around to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Just curious, what is your CAD program of choice? CATIA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancy sv View Post
    With all the free blogging and photo sites around, why would a traveller get their own website?
    Because when I created my website, none of those free services existed yet. I needed a place for pics and things, so that's why I created my own website. Plus, it's tidy to have everything under the same domain name (web site url, email, etc) rather than having things spread everywhere.

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