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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    Does anyone have a Ferrari F450?

    How is the gas mileage?



    I only ask to make a point. I've noticed a weird phenomenon here on bike forums, but it probably happens on other forums as well. People will post a thread that starts out:

    "Does anyone have..."

    Well, of course someone has one. If it exists, somebody has it, somewhere. The question should be:

    "Does anyone here have..." or "Can anyone here share their experience with..." or something similar.

    It laziness. I know, I'm just as bad, I'm picking nits.
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    so....what's yer point?
    this aint skool ya know?

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    Nope, but i did see a yellow Hummer with "NO MPG" as its license plate.

    Well, on the front...the real license plate was on the back (apparently in FL you only need one).
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    Whenever I see the "Does anyone.... " threads I just automatically want to reply "no". It is almost Pavlovian.
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    And if I did have a Ferrari F450...why would I care about the mileage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    so....what's yer point?
    this aint skool ya know?
    Sadly the language used on the web and in text messaging is starting to bleed over into school, and I guess that is the point. If you're a lazy dumb ass, it shows up wherever you communicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl View Post
    Sadly the language used on the web and in text messaging is starting to bleed over into school, and I guess that is the point. If you're a lazy dumb ass, it shows up wherever you communicate.
    OOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKK?
    a lazy dumb ass? Wow, um you do realize that this is a place people come to just to have a little fun and let go of the day to day stuff, don't you? And my kid loves to use txt language wherever possible, but she's also smart enough to know when its appropriate and when its not appropriate. So are you having issues with someone you know not knowing when its appropriate to use correct english?

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    "Correct" english is dying. People seem to be either too lazy to correct mistakes, or not skilled enough in english to know they are making mistakes. I've read through a bunch of threads on this forum that are difficult at best to decipher what the OP is saying.

    Sad state of affairs.

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    Shouldn't you be out riding your recliner bike, twahl?




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    Actually there was a study done recently (I know, studies are like belly buttons) that indicates a steady increase in the number of students that are using text message style language in their school assignments. The conclusion of course is that through regular use, anything becomes "normal" and acceptable in the mind of the people using it.

    As far as leaving key words out, as in my example, that's just an extension of lazy use of language. This kind of discussion instantly divides participants into two separate camps with very few people in the middle. There are those that argue that it's only the Internet, so it doesn't matter. There are those that argue that it does matter because improper use of language is improper use of language. Teachers are starting to report that in fact, kids are taking it from one to the other, and think that their teachers are old fashioned for not just accepting it.

    By saying "Wow, um you do realize that this is a place people come to just to have a little fun and let go of the day to day stuff, don't you?" you are reinforcing that view.

    I have two teenagers. Both are bright, but not stellar students. I have not experienced this problem with them, but then again mine know that if I got an e-mail or written note from them using language "shortcuts" there would be an issue. Somebody has to teach them that it's not acceptable.
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    we need more, "Does anyone...." threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97 View Post
    Shouldn't you be out riding your recliner bike, twahl?



    I'm too anal about my cycling, too.

    I track my miles, and when I moved my computer over to the rolling recliner I discovered that it wasn't reading from the sensors. I had been having intermittent problems with it before, but now it's toast so I'm waiting on a new wiring harness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl View Post
    Actually there was a study done recently (I know, studies are like belly buttons) that indicates a steady increase in the number of students that are using text message style language in their school assignments. The conclusion of course is that through regular use, anything becomes "normal" and acceptable in the mind of the people using it.

    As far as leaving key words out, as in my example, that's just an extension of lazy use of language. This kind of discussion instantly divides participants into two separate camps with very few people in the middle. There are those that argue that it's only the Internet, so it doesn't matter. There are those that argue that it does matter because improper use of language is improper use of language. Teachers are starting to report that in fact, kids are taking it from one to the other, and think that their teachers are old fashioned for not just accepting it.

    By saying "Wow, um you do realize that this is a place people come to just to have a little fun and let go of the day to day stuff, don't you?" you are reinforcing that view.

    I have two teenagers. Both are bright, but not stellar students. I have not experienced this problem with them, but then again mine know that if I got an e-mail or written note from them using language "shortcuts" there would be an issue. Somebody has to teach them that it's not acceptable.

    sounds like you have already taught them to understand when its appropriate and when its not appropriate to use txt speak. Good on ya! I have tried to do the same with mine. Should not other parents be doing the same thing? Why is it always up to the teachers to teach kids how to communicate?

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    Heading to P&R in 3,2,1......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    sounds like you have already taught them to understand when its appropriate and when its not appropriate to use txt speak. Good on ya! I have tried to do the same with mine. Should not other parents be doing the same thing? Why is it always up to the teachers to teach kids how to communicate?
    Unfortunately as parents (and teachers) we're outnumbered by their peers setting a different example. As adults I think it's our responsibility to point it out when we use forums where kids are active, to show them that they are making an impression when they communicate, and that impression isn't good when they don't use language properly. It really doesn't take much longer to type "before" than to type "b4" but once you train the brain to substitute, it will start to do so on it's own.

    edit: I think it's great when the mods move a thread to P&R when many of the thread participants don't have the ability to post there. I mean...OK, I was taking part in a discussion, now it's moved and I can't reply without asking for permission to. Silly, no?

    I guess I could sabotage my own thread and bring teen clothing into the discussion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl View Post
    Sadly the language used on the web and in text messaging is starting to bleed over into school, and I guess that is the point. If you're a lazy dumb ass, it shows up wherever you communicate.
    im writng my nxt tchnicl rpt in txt spk 2 c if my b0zz cn read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    "Correct" english is dying.
    Proto, Old, Middle, Early Modern, Modern, Contemporary--it's not dying, it has been evolving since its inception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl View Post
    Unfortunately as parents (and teachers) we're outnumbered by their peers setting a different example. As adults I think it's our responsibility to point it out when we use forums where kids are active, to show them that they are making an impression when they communicate, and that impression isn't good when they don't use language properly. It really doesn't take much longer to type "before" than to type "b4" but once you train the brain to substitute, it will start to do so on it's own.

    edit: I think it's great when the mods move a thread to P&R when many of the thread participants don't have the ability to post there. I mean...OK, I was taking part in a discussion, now it's moved and I can't reply without asking for permission to. Silly, no?

    I guess I could sabotage my own thread and bring teen clothing into the discussion...
    Now its a Foo thread....

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    You know, I have heard that the base model Corvette will get just under 30 mpg if driven nicely. Light weight, good aerodynamics, and a well-chosen gear ratio can give surprising results. The F450 might similarly not be bad.
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    1/2 Mpg

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    Don't say nuthin if you can't say it proper.
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    Anyone who cares about correct English (particularly punctuation) will get a kick out of this
    entertaining rant of a book.

    The first rule of flats is You don't talk about flats!

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    yep, i have 2. the other is yellow


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