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Old 05-15-08, 08:26 AM   #1
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I'm posting using UBUNTU....

Just trying it out. I like it a lot.

That is all.
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Old 05-15-08, 08:35 AM   #2
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I would love to get back into the Linux world...

How is support for wireless?

That is the one thing I needed that wasn't addressed well the last time I tried Linux. But, it has been a couple of years.

Of course, now that I own a house, I could probably just run CAT 5 where I need it anyway... but if I can just use the built in Wireless G in my laptop it would save me a few bucks.
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Old 05-15-08, 08:41 AM   #3
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support for wireless in ubuntu is pretty good if you're using a common module.
takes too much reading and searching for the faint hearted though.

downside is you can't use PSK2 and even PSK on some models.
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I've upgraded to Ubuntu Hardy Heron- MUCH better wireless support than even 7.04 (which wasn't bad). And, you can run it within Windows. I've been running it on an IBM X61s laptop (small screen), and the desktop is just lovely, even at that resolution (which is more than I can say for XP).
I'd try it out, LD- maybe run it from the LiveCD if you don't want to commit yet.

[edit]: I'm using it on a WPA network- no problems at all.
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I just started using it 30 minutes ago so I don't know much about it yet. Don't even have it loaded yet...just running it from the CD.

What is Hardy Heron MTB??

What is PSK AEO??
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Hardy Heron=Ubuntu 8.04 (the new release)
PSK=one of several network security modes- WEP and WPA and a couple of others.
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Ah OK. That it what I am running. That would explain the big bird background..lol

I know WEP is fairly easy to break, but isn't WPA pretty strong if setup correctly??
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I am pretty sure that I am posting using a computer, however, I could be wrong.
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Are you posting from a desktop? If not, how good is the power management?

Damn, now I'm thinking of making the switch right now. Windows Server 2008 is treating me really well as it is.
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Ah OK. That it what I am running. That would explain the big bird background..lol

I know WEP is fairly easy to break, but isn't WPA pretty strong if setup correctly??
WPA is nearly unbreakable. There have been a few people who have been able to crack WPA schemes using brute force, but the amount of time (and computational power) needed to do that is self-limiting (think days).
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WPA is nearly unbreakable. There have been a few people who have been able to crack WPA schemes using brute force, but the amount of time (and computational power) needed to do that is self-limiting (think days).
So why am I using WPA2 ? (i.e., why does it exist?)
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Hardy Heron=Ubuntu 8.04 (the new release)
PSK=one of several network security modes- WEP and WPA and a couple of others.
Geesh I just upgraded to 7.10. What's with this Ubuntu development team can't they just slow down a little

I've had problems with wireless when travelling (7.x) but it usually works out pretty well. I was hoping that a new release would address the issues.
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by PSK I meant WPA... sorry for the confusion
I never was a big fan of wifi technology.

WPA-PSK full acronym.
they made WPA2 for higher security for corporations that would like a higher encryption than just WPA, but can't or wouldn't rather not use wired.
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by PSK I meant WPA... sorry for the confusion
I never was a big fan of wifi technology.

WPA-PSK full acronym.
they made WPA2 for higher security for corporations that would like a higher encryption than just WPA, but can't or wouldn't rather not use wired.
I knew that sounded familiar..... I remember "WPA-PSK" from setting up my router a few months ago.. but Winders just has "WPA".
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Sounds like I'll burn a CD this weekend.
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Any idea if there is a client you can use to check Exchange mail? That's one thing I can't do at this point.
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I was going to try and use it, but I have an iBook G4 and the PPC architecture isn't supported with the newer versions. They're still going to support the last version to work on PPC processors for a while, but one of the reasons I was interested in the current release was the increased wireless support. Guess this would be a good reason to get that new macBook I was eyeballing? And I'm not a total applephile, so perhaps some other cheap PC clone laptop.
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ok, now type rm -rf,
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I was going to try and use it, but I have an iBook G4 and the PPC architecture isn't supported with the newer versions. They're still going to support the last version to work on PPC processors for a while, but one of the reasons I was interested in the current release was the increased wireless support. Guess this would be a good reason to get that new macBook I was eyeballing? And I'm not a total applephile, so perhaps some other cheap PC clone laptop.
wireless was pretty good from feisty fawn.
macs don't have a ton of models like acer or hp does. Support for macbook, I assume, would be good to great over a clone laptop that you'd have to pull apart to find what wireless card you are using.
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Any idea if there is a client you can use to check Exchange mail? That's one thing I can't do at this point.
Yes Evolution. You will need to configure OWA on your Exchange server if it's not already. It even works with your GAL. Some people claim it works perfectly for them and others report problems. I've had some issues with Evolution but it's promissing and for the most part works well. You can set meetings, edit the calendar, contacts ect...
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For a client side solution, ideally, you need imap enabled. or you could go old school and use pop.

OWA is not needed unless you are using the web interface in which case most browsers will work using the "basic" exchange interface. I find the basic exchange interface acceptable in a pinch, but I couldn't work from it full time.
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ok, now type rm -rf,
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Our IT department will not use imap for security reasons. It's not necessarily the enabling of IMAP that's the risk. It's allowing IMAP access to your corporate email servers from the outside world that's the problem. With OWA, you have only a web server in the DMZ. all traffic from that web server to the mail servers on other side of the corporate firewall is secure. With IMAP, they'd have to open up the mail servers to be accessible directly from the outside.

At least that's what they tell me. I know nothing about Exchange really.
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Our IT department will not use imap for security reasons. It's not necessarily the enabling of IMAP that's the risk. It's allowing IMAP access to your corporate email servers from the outside world that's the problem. With OWA, you have only a web server in the DMZ. all traffic from that web server to the mail servers on other side of the corporate firewall is secure. With IMAP, they'd have to open up the mail servers to be accessible directly from the outside.

At least that's what they tell me. I know nothing about Exchange really.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't any communication in that direction defeat the purpose of a true DMZ?
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