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Old 06-23-08, 06:38 PM   #1
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questions from a mac virgin

as a formers windows user, and current Macbook Virgin - i'm still getting used to different ways of accomplishing simple tasks. i'm trying to forget everything i know about PC's and relearn this OS from the ground up, and i think i'm over analyzing it really, but certain tasks i'm having trouble figuring out.

i have tons of high-res images that i'm trying to organize, and i suppose i'm a little confused as to what area on my hard drive to store files. For example my computer is titled 'carsRcoffins'.

in 'finder', it shows my hard drive, as well as 'carsRcoffins' which shows up under 'devices'. when i upload/store images, which is the best place to transfer them to? or should i upload everything to 'iphoto'?

help with this confusion! i'm trying to simplify my workflow, and i'm freaking out with all this un-organization.
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You mean to say this whole pc/mac marketing thing isn't exactly true?


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You mean to say this whole pc/mac marketing thing isn't exactly true?
Sadly, Apple's TV spots understate the true suck factor of Windows.
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Aren't you going to answer his question? Are you more bent on making yourself look like a typical Apple hipster/******?
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I think iPhoto will handle all of the library managemnt, so I think you can transfer them there if you want simplicity.

Otherwise, I believe that it's mostly drag and drop; select the files that you want, and then just drop them in your desired location.

I hope that this helps. I am not an expert on Mac systems, but I know a little.
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Old 06-23-08, 07:18 PM   #6
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I dunno how like macOS is to itunes, but I can't get the grasp of itunes to save my life. It seems like it tries to dumbfound the user to 'organize' his/her songs, and not in a very intuitive way.

Sorry, can't help ya either.
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Aren't you going to answer his question? Are you more bent on making yourself look like a typical Apple hipster/******?
Pcad already has that nailed....

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Old 06-23-08, 07:26 PM   #8
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File-->new folder title new folder how you please drag n drop photos into folder
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If you're looking for something similar to windows, in your home folder on your mac (in your finder window there should be an item with your user name) there should be a folder called pictures or photos. It's similar to the 'my pictures' folder in Windows..

Otherwise just put them wherever you want
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Someone should brighten pcad's headphones in that pic...
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File-->new folder title new folder how you please drag n drop photos into folder
Yes its as simple as this. You don't have to over think it, thats the beauty of Macs. Create a folder right on the desktop, it doesn't have to be anywhere in particular, name it, heck you don't really have to do this and it will automatically be called "untitled folder", drop your photo's in and there you are. You can leave it on the desktop or drop it somewhere else using the finder. Simple really.

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And if you were using windows you could just right click instead of having to go all the way to the top of the screen and back.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the mac OS when used on a good computer and not running a million things at once, but when you do it gets pretty bad. From my (limited) experience, windows is better at actually being productive when your computer is straining to keep everything running at once, or on a slow/old computer, because you don't have to use the mouse pointer as much.
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'Hipster'? That term implies that I'm into Macs because they're currently the hot techie item. But I bought my first Mac in 1984 and started using them in my business in 1991. Because they make it easier to get my work done. I had a Dell running Windows XP for several years. I never really needed it.

The Dell is now a large paperweight.

And no, I'm not going to answer his question. If anything I would adopt the Road Nazi approach to newbies, but since that would require yelling at him, I'll have to pass. I'm too tired tonight.
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From what I understand about buying Macs...


Bend over, put your hands on your knees, take a deep breath or two and relax your buttocks...

If you do it right and go along with it, removing your wallet will result in the least pain.
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pop open a command shell, type in 'ls -lR |grep -i jpg'?

I've done that on a couple Macs to hunt down stuff, although its not the Mac "way" of doing stuff.
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Apple's biggest ally in its rapidly expanding computer sales is Microsoft.

Figure it out.
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pop open a command shell, type in 'ls -lR |grep -i jpg'?

I've done that on a couple Macs to hunt down stuff, although its not the Mac "way" of doing stuff.
I don't have a Mac, but since OSX has a BSD back end, the "locate" and "find" commands should work and are typically much more effective.

"Locate" is much faster and "find" allows you to do many things like find files by size, mod or creation date, and it can perform operations you specify on them.

Windows geeks that like unix can either get a business or ultimate version of vista which has a unix subshell or install cygwin to get a highly functional shell.
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I'll buy their stuff as soon as they don't act like even a worse monopoly than MS$ that didn't quite make it. You can't change the battery in the iphone, ipod, and air. The iphone and touch won't let you install anything they don't want you to. If you do, Apple might purposely disable your device. The touch purposely can't run skype (and doesn't support a mic anyway). Apple also insists on controlling the hardware peripherals you attach as well. If you want an iphone, you only can get it with one network and the contract that will now run you $2K.
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For the OP-

If you haven't already found a way to organize your photos, and you have a bunch of jpegs and gifs, I'd suggest giving iPhoto a try. (On a new mac, iPhoto should be in your dock- its a camera with a picture behind it). Do you have all of your photos in a directory somewhere? If so, you can just drag that directory (folder icon) on top of the iPhoto icon in your dock, and drop. That should import all those photos, and you can organize them into "events" very easily within iPhoto.

For future pictures you take with your digital camera, iPhoto should launch automatically, give you a preview of whats on the camera, and give you the option to import. Its actually quite slick, and with the latest version of iPhoto, I have found it to be quite quick with lots of photos (I have 20+k pictures in my iPhoto library on my MBP, and it is still nice and snappy).

If you shoot/have a bunch of pictures in RAW format, you may want to consider Aperture, or Adobe LightRoom. They are both quite slick.

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"Locate" is much faster and "find" allows you to do many things like find files by size, mod or creation date, and it can perform operations you specify on them.
The only problem with "locate" is it depends on locate.updatedb having been run. In Apple's default scripts, it is only run once per week (I have updated my scripts to update daily). But yes, if your database is updated, locate does a great job, and you can combine it with a bash script, or awk to do some pretty nifty moving around of files.
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+1 on iPhoto. If you have iLife 2008, which comes with every new Mac, just open your iPhoto when you plug in your camera, and import from there. iPhoto will automatically organize your files into Events. Greatness. Easy. PM me if you need some help.

Also, FYI, if you live anywhere near a Mac store, you can take free classes on most applications, including iPhoto. If not, take this tutorial:

http://www.apple.com/ilife/tutorials/#iphoto
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The only problem with "locate" is it depends on locate.updatedb having been run. In Apple's default scripts, it is only run once per week (I have updated my scripts to update daily). But yes, if your database is updated, locate does a great job, and you can combine it with a bash script, or awk to do some pretty nifty moving around of files.
True, but you can run this manually on other systems. I would expect the same is true with OSX.
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True, but you can run this manually on other systems. I would expect the same is true with OSX.
Yup. Just run as su via:

sudo locate.updatedb

Takes a little time to run, but most people don't know of the command, and that the db can (and often times is) out of date.
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Almost all systems I've been on, unless the person has cronned locate's updatedb to fire off nightly, its almost always out of date. I either just use find or ls if I need to hunt down a file. I'm also used to operating systems that may not have locate installed by default (almost all modern operating systems do, but there are a few that don't, like older AIX and Solaris installs.)

As for UNIX commands in Windows, cygwin works decently, but if possible, put cygwin on its own partition, as a full install creates hundreds of thousands of files, making backups and finds a living hell if its directory is on a main OS or data volume. I also second the Vista Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate purchase.

I wonder sometimes if MS is its own worst enemy. They should have had three editions of Vista, just like XP. Home (for media center), Pro (superset of home + the usual features), and a VLK of Pro (so one can image and not worry about setting up an activation infrastructure... KMS servers annoy me to no end.) Of course, every ball MS fumbles, Apple happily grabs possession of it.
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You tech geeks like making things sound hard. Just use spotlight and get on with it.

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OK, a couple of things I should clear up for the OP. Everything is on the Macs hard drive just like any computer. Your folder name is on the hard drive and it just shows up in the finder (bottom left picaso like smiley face) as a shortcut. Click on the hard drive and work your way down and you will find everything. The desktop is just a folder on the hard drive too.

Oh and Spotlight is a computer search tool on the top right hand corner of the toolbar.

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