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Old 08-18-13, 02:26 PM   #2551
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I give up, what is it? Doesn't look like a Land Rover. It sure would help if people labeled the photographs well enough that others can go find out more about the car.
I really don't know what it is. I know it's an "Etceterini," which I understand is defined as hand-built, small displacement Italian racing cars between the 40's and early 60's...
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Old 08-18-13, 02:28 PM   #2552
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I really don't know what it is. I know it's an "Etceterini," which I understand is defined as hand-built, small displacement Italian racing cars between the 40's and early 60's...
It's pretty.
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Old 08-18-13, 06:43 PM   #2553
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Found more info on it. It's a 1953 Siata 208CS Balbo Berlinetta.

There's another pic of it on the first page in this article, as well as 10+ more pages of car pics from the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Lots of 911's within, I'm talking to you FlatSix.

http://www.sportscardigest.com/pebbl...rt-and-photos/
This actually looks like it'd be a weird looking car, but that's an awesome angle. 1955 Lincoln Indianapolis Boano Coupe
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Old 08-18-13, 06:47 PM   #2554
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1967 Alfa Romeo TZ2 Zagato Coupe, from above mentioned article
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Old 08-18-13, 07:15 PM   #2555
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F-40LM Ferrari. Old school raw power and aerodynamics in a carbon firer, no roll up windows no door interior liners package. Purported to be almost as fast as the Ferrari F1 car of the same era.


Brutal and beautiful in a very hard edged way.
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Old 08-18-13, 07:34 PM   #2556
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This actually looks like it'd be a weird looking car, but that's an awesome angle. 1955 Lincoln Indianapolis Boano Coupe
Here's another angle of it.

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Old 08-19-13, 09:25 AM   #2557
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^Yea, it's kind of goofy. Batman-esque. Edit:The batmobile I speak of actually was a Lincoln as well. Cool nonetheless.

'33 Volvo Venus Bilo. Purportedly the first concept car. I dig. Full article about it below.


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Old 08-19-13, 09:43 AM   #2558
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Here's another angle of it.
That's cool, is that a REAL exhaust or just fake pipes? One would wonder how they keep the bodywork clean from the soot.
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That's cool, is that a REAL exhaust or just fake pipes? One would wonder how they keep the bodywork clean from the soot.
I was thinking they should add some exhaust pipe flame throwers. That would really do it right. Small flames, but pulsing in the firing order.



But since the 55 Lincoln had a V8 engine, and there are only 6 exhaust pipes, either they are fake or the final two were routed to the back in the usual fashion.
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Old 08-19-13, 11:25 AM   #2560
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My step-sister had one. I got to drive it a few times. They looked cool, but weren't much faster than a regular bug.
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My step-sister had one. I got to drive it a few times. They looked cool, but weren't much faster than a regular bug.
I had one of these. The reason they weren't any faster is that they were for all intents and purposes a VW Bug, only heavier body and slightly wider (and heavier) pan. Amazing story how the design was originally to have been a Studibaker. I really enjoyed mine but they were real rust magnets.
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Old 08-19-13, 06:31 PM   #2562
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The rust issue is why the first thing I did was take it to Ziebart.
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Old 08-19-13, 07:28 PM   #2563
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Old 08-19-13, 08:08 PM   #2564
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Jealous FlatSix... I got to watch them set-up part of Amelia Island once, but I missed the bulk of the show. I definitely need to get to one of the two asap.
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Old 08-20-13, 12:49 AM   #2566
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This thread is another datum in the dataset that shows most Anglosphere cyclists are really MOTORISTS since they almost always avail of a car to get anywhere they have to go(with few exceptions, try for example find a decent stock of panniers in Local Bike Store). The amount of gearhead-dom in this thread is epicly disgusting...

The car is a menace to society in every facet that could be mentioned. If I woke up tomorrow and learned that government subsidies for roads for private automobiles were ending, I would be ecstatic.
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Old 08-20-13, 03:07 AM   #2567
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Hey !! don't tar everyone here with the same brush. I don't own a car and I don't drive. I know what comes out of the tail end may not be good for the planet, but that doesn't mean that I cannot appreciate the classics and the modern engineering marvels created by Lamboghini, Porsche, Ferrari and other supercars. Even everyday cars like Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus to name a few, have tried to make a cleaner and greener engine. Every year they are improving the performanance, safety, comfort and features of the car. Today's cars have come a long way since Model T....

This thread is for us to share and admire classics that have disappeared and oggle at supercars that we cannot afford. BTW, depending on how he drives on the roads, the Driver is the menace to society, the car is just the tool he uses. So why blame the car.

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Old 08-20-13, 03:22 AM   #2568
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Admiring cars and "engineering marvels" is just pure wanton consumerism and escapism. Cars cannot be green. The average United States car weighs 4000 lbs! And for what to mostly haul around one person, in a nation where the average male person even despite all the obesity weighs 200 lbs... In the realm of relative truth, go-karts would be more efficient, but absolutely the bicycle is the king of truly efficient transport when you don't subsidize the most expensive and least attractive option with massive taxpayer subsidized roadways, highways, bridges, etc.

The car is the enemy of all those who are not motorists. But since most cyclists in my country are really motorists in their "DNA", it is not surprising that this topic would span 100 pages of replies.
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Stick with the trolls in "living car free." Why would you come to a thread with people who obviously have a passion for something, and bash it?
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Old 08-20-13, 04:51 AM   #2570
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I live in a rural area, it wouldn't matter how dedicated to bicycles I was I could not survive with out a car. All of society is engineered around motor vehicles so get over it.

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Old 08-20-13, 05:50 AM   #2573
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Admiring cars and "engineering marvels" is just pure wanton consumerism and escapism.
Despite being car-free myself, I have to agree with BenzFanatic, that this thread is not the place to argue the benefits(or not) of cars. The cars featured in this thread, as you point out, are pure escapism. This is the place for it. This thread is not about long distance commutes in the minivan, or driving to the convenience store in an SUV.

BenzFanatic is right. If you want a good discussion of the merits of car culture, trundle on over to Living Car Free. Or if you want to discuss it in Foo, why not start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

The Buddhist concept of yin and yang acknowledges that in bad there is good and in good there is bad. This thread is a celebration of the good in cars. Yes, they are not a good idea for mass transportation. But they can be beautiful. They can be exciting. That is what this thread is about.


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The car is the enemy of all those who are not motorists. But since most cyclists in my country are really motorists in their "DNA", it is not surprising that this topic would span 100 pages of replies.
As an auto mechanic who has spent years bicycle commuting, I understand and respect both cultures better than most Americans I think, which at least puts me on par with many/most here in this regard. However, it is without question comments like this that make me happy I did a burnout and billowed smoke at a gaggle of critical massers that were amused by being in my way.

For the record, screw any elitist arrogant jackass who thinks he or she is superior to others because of commuting in one way or another. I have no problem with lobbying for tighter emissions laws, better bicycle routes and encouraging people to drive smaller vehicles and bicycle commute (all but one of my cars at least a couple hundred pounds shy of 2500) but you seriously need to learn to appreciate equality and the passions that others have which you don't.
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Old 08-20-13, 12:20 PM   #2575
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Saw a lot of nice looking cars on the Woodard cruise this last weekend. Was driving a 1966 Olds convert. If you get a chance check out the web site. There are very few really bad looking cars. I think it would be easier to list all the ugly cars. Some of the Citrones and the Ugos are the top of the that list.

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