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Old 10-12-12, 06:16 AM   #1251
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Here is another Toyota 2000gt, they are really great looking cars.
Indeed... the designers of the GT2000 were initially working with Nissan / Datsun and they opted not to use this and pursue a somewhat different layout with the Z series which is the most successful sports car ever. Toyota embraced the GT2000 concept although they did not produce many of these cars.

The Supra is the descendent of the GT2000 and carried forward many of it's designs, notably was the straight 6 engine that Toyota had developed for their top of the line Crown sedan (another really nice car).

I have driven numerous Z series cars and Supras and was fortunate to be able to drive a 240 team car that had been super modified and was capable of doing nearly 200mph... a friend was their team mechanic for many years and built his own race version which was barely street legal.

This was an insanely fun car to drive... it victimized pretty much everything on the road.

I really miss the days when high performance straight 6 engines were common in cars like the Z and Supra... Toyota's straight 6 was smooth, powerful, and virtually bombproof and the superior engine for this rwd platform.
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THIS is a Porsche...

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Ahhh, old school!
I liked these "old school" cars snapped at Schwetzingen Germany car show in 2001. Poorly digitilized from negatives, sorry 'bout dat.
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Thanks ... Any Air-Cooled engine is a real Porsche

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Old 10-12-12, 07:55 PM   #1256
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I liked these "old school" cars snapped at Schwetzingen Germany car show in 2001. Poorly digitilized from negatives, sorry 'bout dat.
Yes! All of these!
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Old 10-16-12, 10:42 AM   #1257
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I was just browsing Craigslist. Is it even possible to find a CRX Si that hasn't been completely ruined? The best one I found in the Seattle area had way over 200,000 miles and the interior looked very rough. And even it didn't have the original wheels, although that's not a huge problem. But all the others I found weren't just lightly modified (wheels, exhaust, basically things that could easily be removed), but completely ruined in ways that would be far too costly or troublesome to reverse. One had been turned into a convertible, had Corvette taillights grafted onto the back, and an Eclipse front bumper. Oh, and it was the worst Eclipse bumper they could have used, too. Like this:

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It also had some headlights I couldn't even identify, a roll cage welded in place, and of course, a shoddily done engine swap. I mean, why use the Si model if you're just going to replace everything? Not that I would wish anything like that on an HF, either. And I can't even find a stock HF that's not an automatic with 250,000+ miles. If I were a billionaire I'd buy trashed/poorly modded cars and completely restore them perfectly. And then I'd never sell them to anyone, for fear they'd ruin them again.
My 2nd car was a 1990 civic si hatchback. Loved that little thing. I bought it with 119k on it in 2001 I believe, it was all white, and I bought honda hx wheels (super light) and had them powder coated white. Beautiful little car. Ended up getting a Nissan Maxima SE to replace it thought because I was stuck in CA traffic all the time and 2 surgeries on my left knee left it in rough shape. Miss that little thing.
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Mercedes 600 Pullman Limo (6.3)... Possibly the classiest limousine one could own.




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Just found out there's a Mecum auction in my area next week.. Tons of eye candy here:

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Old 10-18-12, 10:37 PM   #1260
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Spotted a Rolls Corniche coupe on the way into work today.



I also caught a Lambo Diablo in screaming yellow on the way home. But seeing one of those waiting in line for a stoplight is like watching someone tie a racehorse down... it just ain't right.
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Old 10-19-12, 07:38 AM   #1262
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Spotted a Rolls Corniche coupe on the way into work today.



I also caught a Lambo Diablo in screaming yellow on the way home. But seeing one of those waiting in line for a stoplight is like watching someone tie a racehorse down... it just ain't right.
Why do I suddenly have a craving for a Cuban cigar?
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Ok... I have my flameproof suit on... and I'm expecting to need it...

Unique? Absolutely. Cute? The ladies definitely think so. Beautiful? More beautiful every time the gas prices go up.

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Smart 42 does no better on gas than many cars twice it's size, with no benefit except a smaller parkings size.
It has the rollover stability of an SUV and the tall, narrow profile make it very unpleasant on freeways.
Toyota's IQ and Fiat Cinquecento do it better, if you want a small car I'm afraid.

Worse still, it's larger than the EU version. The entire point of the size was so it could park head into the curb (being as long as a normal parking space is wide).
The US version is larger, so the size doesn't have any meaning. They might as well made it 3' longer and improve driveability.

Smart is coming out with a electric version in a fight to stay relevant... and it was never a beautiful car.
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Smart 42 does no better on gas than many cars twice it's size, with no benefit except a smaller parkings size.
It has the rollover stability of an SUV and the tall, narrow profile make it very unpleasant on freeways.
Toyota's IQ and Fiat Cinquecento do it better, if you want a small car I'm afraid.

Worse still, it's larger than the EU version. The entire point of the size was so it could park head into the curb (being as long as a normal parking space is wide).
The US version is larger, so the size doesn't have any meaning. They might as well made it 3' longer and improve driveability.

Smart is coming out with a electric version in a fight to stay relevant... and it was never a beautiful car.
enough flame for you?
Unfortunately, you only got one "fact" correct. It does take a smaller parking space. Everything else is not true.

Your opinion that it was never a beautiful car is your opinion... and I respect that.
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I compared the Smart to the Jetta TDI... there is a fairly large price difference between them but the Jetta gets some of the best mileage of any car, performs great, and has a lot of space to boot.

Jetta tdi - 3200 pounds - 55-70 mpg highway (reported averages vary)
Smart diesel - 1600 pounds - 70 mpg highway (reported averages)

My base VW Rabbit / Golf diesel sat 5, had a 1.6 litre diesel and on straight road trips was seeing 78mpg (imperial), the combined mileage was over 50mpg. Like the Smart it was not the best for any challenging road driving as although the ride and handling were great the non turbo diesel put out fairly low horsepower.

The gasoline powered Smart car gets the same highway mileage (epa rates it at 38mpg hwy) as my 20 year old Sentra which has averaged 37mpg over the last 6000 miles where a lot of that was higher speed highway driving through the mountains, at more civilized speeds (55mpg) my Sentra can and has exceeded 40mpg and I calculated this using US gallons.

The Smart 42 weighs 1600 pounds, my butt ugly 5 passenger Sentra is a much better highway car (one of the nicest I have owned) and hits the curb at 1900 pounds and has twice the horsepower of the Smart 42 and a 1.6 litre engine.

Despite that, the Smart is a wonderful car and has much going for it for urban lifestyles, the people I know who have them do not like them as much at highway speeds.
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Also, the transmission jerks the entire car at every shift.
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Unfortunately, you only got one "fact" correct. It does take a smaller parking space. Everything else is not true.

Your opinion that it was never a beautiful car is your opinion... and I respect that.
All factual data from NHTSA and maroney sticker

In government tests, the tall-profile, short-wheelbase Smart ForTwo proves more likely to roll over than other economy cars, rating 3 stars out of 5 in that test and for protecting the passenger in a frontal crash against a car its own size.

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration labels the Smart ForTwo a "safety concern" because the driver door popped open during the side-crash test, increasing the likelihood that an occupant would be ejected.


rear-crash rating is merely "acceptable". IIHS notes that the Smart ForTwo's Good frontal-crash rating only applies to crashes with similarly tiny cars; the ForTwo performs poorly in an IIHS crash test against a midsize Mercedes.

The ForTwo is tiny for sure, but its gas mileage of 34 /38 mpg city/highway is relatively unchanged from when the car debuted. And with a Hyundai Accent getting 40 mpg highway — along with a cadre of other thrifty options — the ForTwo doesn't seem so smart.

The car's proportions also lead it to feel tipsy, and indeed the ForTwo has a worse rollover rating than a Ford Explorer.

Its rollover rating was also just three stars, a rating usually reserved for large SUVs.

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I generally don't drool over cars, but someone left a copy of Road & Track magazine in the men's room at work, and I gotta admit, an original 1962 Shelby Cobra CSX2000 is an absolute thing of beauty:

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Also, the transmission jerks the entire car at every shift.
I believe they have corrected the shifting issues the earlier models had.
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I believe they have corrected the shifting issues the earlier models had.
They put a transmission in the car?
what was there before could not be properly labeled a gear box.
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They put a transmission in the car?
what was there before could not be properly labeled a gear box.
The examples we had as car-sharing cars here a couple of years ago were... actually, pretty fun around town except for that transmission.
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Holden HSV Maloo R8 ute.
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Ford FPV-GT. Comes in a ute version too.

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