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Old 01-14-13, 08:53 AM   #1501
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College room mate was the son of a Buick dealer. He had two 1970 GS's. A GS 455 and a Stage 1 GSx. Those were pretty much garage queens, but he did drive the GS 455 on the street and it would lift the front end when he had the street slicks on.

His daily driver varied, but for most of one semester, he had a Grand National. That thing was stupid fast. Total sleeper. I remember blowing a convertible Jaguar off the road one weekend in Dallas. The SMU frat boys were in awe when they caught us at the next redlight.

I would rank that car up with the funnest cars I ever got to drive.
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Old 01-14-13, 09:14 AM   #1502
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A GSX or boat tail riviera would allow me to die a happy man.
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Old 01-14-13, 09:27 AM   #1503
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Any love for the old Toronados with the 455? Had another friend whose father was a bit of a motor head. Craig drove his old 455 Toronado and dad drove a V-8 powered Trident.
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Oh yea. I almost bought a REALLY rough 76 or 78 Toronado one that one of my neighbors was selling when I was like 13. They were the, "let cars sit out in the grass until they rot away" type though, so it really wasn't worth anything. I love all those big old boats.
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Old 01-15-13, 07:06 AM   #1505
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Here are some more nice cars.

A Lancia Astura



A Mercedes


A Spyker



A Marmon V16



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I might get some flak for this one... The Mercedes Gelandewagen. Virtually unchanged on the outside over the past 30+ years, they must be doing something right. It's just so utilitarian. This particular one is very rare, the first V8 powered G, featuring the 5.0 m117 powerhouse shared with my car, the w126 chassis 500SEL.




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There is nothing beautiful about Mercedes that have been built in the last 30 years.
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That hurts! Even the w126 chassis?
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I might get some flak for this one... The Mercedes Gelandewagen. Virtually unchanged on the outside over the past 30+ years, they must be doing something right. It's just so utilitarian. This particular one is very rare, the first V8 powered G, featuring the 5.0 m117 powerhouse shared with my car, the w126 chassis 500SEL.
Is that an original gray market imported Gelandewagen?
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Any love for the old Toronados with the 455? Had another friend whose father was a bit of a motor head. Craig drove his old 455 Toronado and dad drove a V-8 powered Trident.
A v8 powered Trident? You're not referring to the 3 cylinder Triumphs of the 60's are you?
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That hurts! Even the w126 chassis?
They were better looking than that similar era brick slab of a Buick up there but they certainly weren't beautiful.

I owned a Land Rover series and have a similar feeling that you do for the M-B but as much as I loved that thing, the series and the Defenders that came after it are anything but beautiful.
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Is that an original gray market imported Gelandewagen?
It is, a '93 too, and it is pretty rare to find a gray market past ~'85. It's one of 500 made with that engine, which was already discontinued at that point, so I don't know why they didn't use the newer one... There are actually a TON of gray market versions of my car out there. You'd be surprised how different they actually are.
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They were better looking than that similar era brick slab of a Buick up there but they certainly weren't beautiful.

I owned a Land Rover series and have a similar feeling that you do for the M-B but as much as I loved that thing, the series and the Defenders that came after it are anything but beautiful.
Yea, you're right actually... While I love my car I wouldn't call it beautiful, especially when compared to some of the cars in this thread. Sad how MB has declined. The only thing they have going for them is the ridiculous power some of their cars put out.
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Yea, you're right actually... While I love my car I wouldn't call it beautiful, especially when compared to some of the cars in this thread. Sad how MB has declined. The only thing they have going for them is the ridiculous power some of their cars put out.
There was a pretty big decline of beautiful designs that started in the 70's. Cars started becoming less feminine in appearance (what I call beautiful) and more masculine. While there certainly are really nice looking cars now and have been throughout the last 40 years, I struggle to come up with cars that are beautiful.
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What do you think of the commonly available V8 gassers? How reliable are the late model motors?

I really like the G, it's a true suv. I think Steyr handbuilds these?
Anyway, great build quality and common to see as a UN or military vehicle.

The consumer rarity and lack of easy to gain parts makes it tougher as a fun offroad suv and it's a total waste as most use it on the soccer mom circuit.

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What do you think of the commonly available V8 gassers?
What do you mean, newer Benz V8's, or the common ones like the LS? Late model Benz motors are not reliable from what I've seen and read, but my car is an '84 and I don't intend on buying anything newer from benz, so I really don't have any first hand experience... Read the forums of the applicable chassis on Benzworld if you are thinking about buying. The v8's they're putting out now are massive powerhouses, but I would bet their reliability is not great.... Now the m117 like my car and that particular G has, is super reliable, nearly legendarily so.. but that ended with the 126,(besides the very rare m117 G's.) And yes the G is built by Steyr for Benz. I think it is one of the few true SUV's on the market, like you say. And since they just brought them to the US market in '02 I think, yeah parts are hard to find and even crap condition ones go for like 15 g's.

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Good info BF

I was asking about the newer V8s but the reliability issue of the motor doesn't surprise me.
This may be the only consumer product from Benz that still carries the legendary build quality the company was built on.
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Good info BF

I was asking about the newer V8s but the reliability issue of the motor doesn't surprise me.
This may be the only consumer product from Benz that still carries the legendary build quality the company was built on.
I hear their 3.5 v6's are pretty good. I believe there are both gas and diesel 3.5's... but yea, even the G-wagen nowadays isn't nearly as bulletproof as they used to be. That pretty much ended with the w124 and w126. Like I've said before and in other threads, more technology is just more things that will go wrong.
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I agree with that. A diesel G is the most attractive to me but age is a factor with anything, no matter how well made it is.
I don't think many realize how incredibly well built the G is...

The G is a missed opportunity to hit the real suv buyer market with a high quality, simple, premium product.
They have just bloated it with undesirable content that just makes it look old, instead of being faithful to what it is-- and letting it stand on it's merits.

Oh well, I'm down on Merc anyway so my opinion is skewed...
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You can get stratos rally kit cars I'm pretty sure. Those are awesome.

This thing isn't exactly beautiful, but it's still awesome. 620 BHP, 625 ft/lbs. 205 mph. 0-60 in 3.9. In '99.
Edit: Oh yea I forgot to mention had the same engine as the Pagani Zonda.





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