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    Man made?

    While doing some revevations under my house I came across this stone.
    Think it is man made, a hand axe, mace, grinding tool, or just a rock?
    It fits very comfortably in the hand.

    The last native people in the area were the Creek and Cherokee.














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    that is clearly a man modified rock... imo.


    maybe it is very, very old? I think it must be older than the cherokee - since they would not have left a rock looking so ugly and crude... They made use of printing presses and other modern inventions - back when they comprised the 'cherokee nation' in the early days of british colonial America.

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    I made the same post on an archeology forum, but because it has images it has to be mod approved before the post goes through.

    I think it is either a hand axe or a mace. Or a fossilized foot print

    There is a dig in Savannah, GA (5 hours from here) that is claiming to be pre-Clovis, and I've heard of dates as far back as 20K BCE, so very old is not beyond all reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
    I made the same post on an archeology forum, but because it has images it has to be mod approved before the post goes through.

    I think it is either a hand axe or a mace. Or a fossilized foot print

    There is a dig in Savannah, GA (5 hours from here) that is claiming to be pre-Clovis, and I've heard of dates as far back as 20K BCE, so very old is not beyond all reason.
    or a rock Sorry, but it doesnt look like (to me, and Im no expert) the type of stone a person from our past would make an axe out of? Looks like a river stone that happens to look like an axe
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    Well then again maybe! Pay special attention to the Stone axes from the Edo Tokyo museum collection!
    http://images.google.com/images?sour...-8&sa=N&tab=wi
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    Whoever made that is bad at making them.

    We wouldn't have kept it, unless it was a work in progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaTugger View Post
    Whoever made that is bad at making them.

    We wouldn't have kept it, unless it was a work in progress.
    Im guessing youve made a stone axe blade? I have, more than a few times, and although I must admit most of them came out a bit better than the OPs they really werent better by much! and if its authentic Im sure the years (and daily use) would have worn it down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Im guessing youve made a stone axe blade? I have, more than a few times, and although I must admit most of them came out a bit better than the OPs they really werent better by much! and if its authentic Im sure the years (and daily use) would have worn it down a bit.
    I've made hatchets and arrowheads.

    I am an Injun, after all.
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    I don't know. Looks a lot like rocks I see in the streams I fish in.
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    One side clearly looks like it has been worn down and sharpened a bit. It also looks like there is a stain of some sort on it, or is that part of the stone? It looks too dull to be an ax and too sharp to be a grinding tool, but I'm not speaking with any kind of knowledge on the subject.

    Either way, its a cool looking stone/tool!

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    That is some sort of stain on the rock.

    I agree, the front does look like it has been "sharpened".
    Maybe used to grind flower against another stone? That would give it the edge profile.

    I want it to be a tool.

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    Wholly cow! We might be related! My ancestors were (amongst other) the Taino Indians of Puerto Rico. Some people beleive that the Tainos reached the shores of Florida and became a tribe of coastal indians (of whose name I forget) So you never know!
    http://www.elboricua.com/history.html
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    I'm a watered down Creek.

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    I think it evolved from a small pebble.
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    I'm curious about the stain. Maybe it was used to grind berries or some other kind of food?

    I want it to be Cherokee. My great, great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Wholly cow! We might be related! My ancestors were (amongst other) the Taino Indians of Puerto Rico. Some people beleive that the Tainos reached the shores of Florida and became a tribe of coastal indians (of whose name I forget) So you never know!
    http://www.elboricua.com/history.html
    I'm Ojibwa.

    My people ran Southern Ontario until these other people showed up.
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    Looks like a mineral stain?
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
    Looks like a mineral stain?
    Waxy, resin, hard kind of texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaTugger View Post
    I'm Ojibwa.

    My people ran Southern Ontario until these other people showed up.
    Ole Chris Columbus screwed things up for the Tainos on Nov 19th 1493? Thats when he "discovered" Borinquen ( Borinquen is the Taíno name for Puerto Rico and it means La tierra del altivo Señor, or The Land of the Mighty Lord.)
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    put it back! Didn't you watch poltergeist? That is clearly an old indian headstone and you have disturbed the burial ground. Next thing you know chairs are gonna be stacking themselves on your kitchen table. Meat's gonna start crawling across the counters. And if some short weird lady shows up, well, run, just run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    put it back! Didn't you watch poltergeist? That is clearly an old indian headstone and you have disturbed the burial ground. Next thing you know chairs are gonna be stacking themselves on your kitchen table. Meat's gonna start crawling across the counters. And if some short weird lady shows up, well, run, just run.
    Found it under my house too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
    Waxy, resin, hard kind of texture.
    It looks like a stain from some mineral in the stone, its very common in river stones.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadiyah View Post
    My great, great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee.
    It still shows.

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    looks like blood.. you have clearly discovered a clue in a Cold Case,,, a very very very cold case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadiyah View Post
    I'm curious about the stain. Maybe it was used to grind berries or some other kind of food?

    I want it to be Cherokee. My great, great grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee.
    My great grandmother was a Muskogee indian, and my dad swears there's Cherokee on his side.
    Since the Muskogee were part of the Creek Nation and that group was a constant PITA to the cherokee's genetically I am totaly F'd up

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    Maybe it was ceremonial and not really meant to be really servicable? It seems to have a dull edge on one side and a raised notch on the other side just in case the user needed to get somebody's attention.
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