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    is it absurd to expect $40,000 a year plus healthcare?

    when coming out of school with a bachelors of art?

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    are you making that money or paying?
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Probably depends on your major. Bachelors of Art is pretty vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
    when coming out of school with a bachelors of art?


    I don't think Wal-Mart pays that kind of money.

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    Just sayin'
    Starbucks actually has a really good health plan.

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    Reasonable and completely the opposite of absurd? I'd say so. But doable? Depends on what job and where. Plus the hours. Generally speaking, in Detroit, such a thing would probably be more doable with the unions and all the money from all of the industry. In the southwest, home of the lowest wages in the country, I tend to doubt it. Location is half the battle.

    My theory has always been try to live as comfortably as possible while always making sure I have insurance, and to always be on the lookout for a better job with better pay if I'm not satisfied. With a degree in art, you can get some good jobs if people I know are any indication, but being super picky, especially at first, might not work out so well.
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    what about with the jobs that will take any major?

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    Absurd? Maybe. Unrealistic, yup. Depending on what it is you will be doing, and how good of a prospect you are, you might get that, though it's highly unlikely. I was real happy to get $28k as my first job out of school. With HC, 401K.
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    It depends... what job? industry? state?

    PS: I made more than 40k... I have great healthcare... I don't have a BS

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    How about a BS in computer sci? This something low or high? I check different sites, and it so varies on what lucky words you type in.

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    I expect to make better with no degree at all.

    Heck, I did as a carpenter with no debt.
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    Might be absurd in like Kansas, but not absurd at all in NJ or NY, actually kinda low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
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    Starbucks actually has a really good health plan.
    That's my plan when I go back to school (for that 3rd degree and the parties, and the young ladies, and the football games, and the beer, and....oh, you get the picture).

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    You're not quite thinking about this the right way. The reason companies hire people is because they make more money with those employees than without them. If your salary is $40K, they'll easily be out $60K by the time unemployment, SS, vacation, medical, etc is added into the picture. This means you have to do something that produces at least $60K of value to be worthwhile. No one wants to give you a job -- they want to know what you can do for them

    It is not possible to create much value in certain positions. Fairness issues aside, you simply can't flip enough burgers or stock enough toilet paper to justify a $40K salary. Choose certain occupations, and you won't make that even with a graduate degree and a few years of experience.

    Many people make very little when they first get out of college. This can lead to discussions as to the value of the degree since you don't need one to get crummy pay. However, fast forward a few years and life gets much easier.

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    why settle for so little?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erraticrider View Post
    why settle for so little?
    I would have been ecstatic to be making 40K right out of college (I started out at 28K, back in 2001).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    That's my plan when I go back to school (for that 3rd degree and the parties, and the young ladies, and the football games, and the beer, and....oh, you get the picture).
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    so, what should i look for? what should i turn down? (i'm in texas)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
    so, what should i look for? what should i turn down? (i'm in texas)
    Is this the only job you've come across? If so, I don't see a reason not to take it, and keep looking for better options secretly while you work there. Then, when you find a better job with better pay, you can explain to the employer that you'll stay if they want to match or beat the pay scale you've found.

    Only if people all over the place are trying to get you to work for them should you be picky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    You're my boy Blue!!!!!
    you gonna sing Dust in The Wind at my funeral?

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    I don't see anything wrong with wanting it, I think you would be hardpressed to actually get it. A great deal depends ont the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    you gonna sing Dust in The Wind at my funeral?
    I'd be willing to accompany him on bass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post
    I'd be willing to accompany him on bass.
    umm...well, if you can play a fish and make it sound good, be my guest. It aint gonna be like I'm listening to it.

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    i haven't come across any job actually. i'm just asking.

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    What if we sing it like a barbershop quartet? We just need to find one more person...

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