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Old 07-15-08, 09:38 AM   #26
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Old 07-15-08, 04:23 PM   #27
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how hard is it to sharpen the edge of a credit card?
I mean, you can easily cut someone with that, so a knife is really kind unncessary on a plane.
You don't need to sharpen it. A credit card is sharp and sturdy enough without modification to EASILY cut somebody.
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Old 07-15-08, 05:38 PM   #28
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Ok I'm biased, but best way I can think of to improve safety and peace is a couple of well trained dogs on each flight. Amazing how many kids are kept under control as long as they get to pet the nice doggie, and if my two are any example God help anyone trying to get into the cockpit it the dogs are trained to not allow unauthorized access.
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Old 07-15-08, 05:45 PM   #29
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You don't need to sharpen it. A credit card is sharp and sturdy enough without modification to EASILY cut somebody.
sharpeing the edge just helps to ensure a deep enough wound. That carotid artery aint sitting just below the skin you know.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:10 PM   #30
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Incorrect.

They can get a magazine subscription as long as it's direct from the company. You can also buy them from the prison store - but it's only magazines that the prison system has approved.
Depends on the level of security. In a level 4 or 5 prison, anything that could be used as a weapon is tightly restricted. In level 1-3, it's less of an issue.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:42 PM   #31
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Yeah, I can barely get my small carry on under the seat in front of me, no way is there enough room on a crowded flight for theatrical dancing.
It would make for a much nicer flight.


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Old 07-15-08, 06:52 PM   #32
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considering the people you get stuck on a plane with, i'm not sure i'd trust MYSELF with a sharp object....
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Old 07-15-08, 07:04 PM   #33
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wrong...


wrong, wrong, wrong,

wrong.. wrong ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjlDN4FjFGY <-- -?
that just proves my point...
fuselage failure due to poorly understood aviation design at the time. If I remember correctly, microline metal fatigue.

you can also look up Aloha 243. That actually landed because the fuselage didn't collapse and the controls were actually usable. Same cause, different outcome.
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Old 07-15-08, 07:12 PM   #34
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wrong...


wrong, wrong, wrong,

wrong.. wrong ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjlDN4FjFGY <-- -?
I think I mentioned the triple pane window failure option. In the BOAC case, the failure was structural since an airplane flies no different depressurized than pressurized. There have been recent loss of doors/skin resulting in fatalities but not aircraft loss. A Hawaii 737 lost the upper fuselage and a DC-10 (United?) lost a cargo door.

I'm no longer allowed to carry my small Swiss army knife with the 1.5 inch blade. I might take control of the aircraft and we all know we can't have that.
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OP: Because putting weapons in the hands of people that have no idea how to use them and who lack the ability to distinguish when and where to use them is far more likely to harm innocent people than to actually help anything. Whew, long sentence there. In any case, no matter what you do in terms of airline security, terrorists aren't likely to strike there again (unless you put draconian security measures in place, in which they might attack just to show that they can)

Simply, it wouldn't have the same shock value. It wouldn't get them the same attention or results. Look at Columbine. Shock. Horror. Red Lake? You probably don't even recognize the name. It would serve them best to find a new method of attack; most likely through some kind of NBC technology. Simple enough to do, but will scare the crap out of most everyone who enjoys living.

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There likely won't be any terrorists on planes anymore. This was a major paradygm change, from the time where people expected if they cooperated, they would remain alive, but after 9/11, people will fight for their lives, rather than remain sheep.
This change actually happened ON 9/11. Remember Flight 93-- the reason the passengers decided to fight back instead of allow it to happen was very likely because they had heard (via airfone) about the WTC attacks.

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I do agree we should have some security at airports, but you can't be 100% secure and making lives of travellers absolute hell trying to is just going to make the true terrorists have a toast to victory, while they go back to their drawing board.
This is basically why I avoid flying as much as possible. I'd rather take a greyhound bus cross country than go through TSA hell. I once went through a checkpoint with my shoes on. There were no signs saying otherwise. This was not very long after that became inexplicably bad (as has been said before, all we need is for someone to stuff explosives up their ass next time). Instead of asking me to take them off, they decided I was dangerous.

I nearly missed my flight because of their search; and that's WITH running across the better part of the airport and through the terminal. Also there with me was some old lady and what seemed like her grandkid. Obviously a very threatening bunch.
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My theory is put those souvenier baseball bats in every seat back on the jets. Everyone gets a bat. That way, if anyone jumps up yelling "Allahu akbar," with an intent to do harm, the rest of the passengers can apply corrective measures.
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Old 07-15-08, 10:34 PM   #37
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Depends on the level of security. In a level 4 or 5 prison, anything that could be used as a weapon is tightly restricted. In level 1-3, it's less of an issue.
Oh okay. Just checkin' *
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So, now is the time to choose the knive that you would carry onboard. I'd take my Gerber deer skinner. Folder with an antisnap closed feature. Stayed sharp through two Caribou. Srong and safe.





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