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Old 09-16-10, 11:36 PM   #326
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I have four nice watches (Chronoswiss, 2 Breitlings, and an Omega Seamaster Chronograh). I usually wear a Casio G-shock that I bought for MTB riding (I used to fall down a lot...). I'm not so afraid of crashing and ruining a good watch, but it seems like it would might bounce around too much on my wrist. I also have a Seiko diver that I wear quite a bit and it has an expandable band of sorts. I have thought about wearing that on the bike, but never have.
Which Chronoswiss do you have? Almost bought one. I was looking at the Chronoswiss Kairos. A timeless classy look. Currently have a Breitling Evo, Omega Seamaster, Stowa Marine, Citizen Nighthawk Titanium and a RockX Plasmir Milgraph.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

If you HAVE to spend three months salary on something to make you feel like James Bond, it should be on some speaking/shooting/spying/skiing/diving/driving/fighting/flying/riding training, not an Omega Seamaster.
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Old 09-17-10, 12:05 AM   #328
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fake watches are for fake people...period

got to try this on today...wow!!!

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Old 09-17-10, 12:48 AM   #329
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Old 09-17-10, 01:32 AM   #330
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fake watches are for fake people...period

got to try this on today...wow!!!

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only 99 made. I have 2 Panerai's and was "invited" to purchase the 2010 limited editions, love it but respectfully passed.

How bad were early Italian submarines that the crew needed waterproof watches?

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Old 09-17-10, 06:13 AM   #332
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This is my "nice" watch, a vintage 1986 Seiko. It was a gift from my Dad. Almost 25 years old, it's outlasted two straps and I don't know how many batteries, and still runs perfectly.



Most days I wear a cheap knockaround Timex. I never wear a watch while cycling.

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Old 09-17-10, 06:21 AM   #333
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fake watches are for fake people...period
Painting people with a broad brush is for the ignorant...period
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It doesn't suit you. You shouldn't wear a watch bigger than your wrist.
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Expensive watches are just jewelry, like diamond rings and bracelets and dangling gold chains, and have little to do with the practical need for knowing the time. A nice watch for any practical purpose can be had for a couple hundred or less. A lot of men don't like to admit that they wear jewelry, so they call them watches. Inexpensive watches that look like expensive ones are like costume jewelry. So if you're vain enough to need an expensive jewelry-watch, at least be honest about what it is. If it's a gift from a loved one, so much the better.

It is humorous to see these big clunker watches worn by people that also spend a lot to save a few grams on their bike gear, even more so when paired out on the road.

A tip - a few years ago I bought each of my three sons a beautiful Seiko titanium diver's watch for Christmas, on sale for about $150 each. The boys love them, and they are much lighter than a steel watch, I'd say less than half the weight for comparable size and style. I got my wife a lady's model, which is also a featherweight.

Read this for a laugh:
http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Wat...66#custreviews

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Which Chronoswiss do you have? Almost bought one. I was looking at the Chronoswiss Kairos. A timeless classy look. Currently have a Breitling Evo, Omega Seamaster, Stowa Marine, Citizen Nighthawk Titanium and a RockX Plasmir Milgraph.
It's the Tora Chronograph. All my nice watches are also Chronographs - just something I like about them. I really like the clean look of the Kairos, however. Nice watch!
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If you HAVE to spend three months salary on something to make you feel like James Bond, it should be on some speaking/shooting/spying/skiing/diving/driving/fighting/flying/riding training, not an Omega Seamaster.
If you HAVE to spend three months salary on something, you are living beyond your means.
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Expensive watches are just jewelry, like diamond rings and bracelets and dangling gold chains, and have little to do with the practical need for knowing the time. A nice watch for any practical purpose can be had for a couple hundred or less. A lot of men don't like to admit that they wear jewelry, so they call them watches. Inexpensive watches that look like expensive ones are like costume jewelry. So if you're vain enough to need an expensive jewelry-watch, at least be honest about what it is. If it's a gift from a loved one, so much the better.
A cheap Timex digital watch is all anyone really needs to tell the time. To be sure, there is a lot of vanity among some or many people who purchase high end watches, but there are a LOT of people in the watch world who are fascinated by the precision engineering it takes to make an automatic watch. They'll spend a fortune a watch that most of the planet would never recognize, so it's not just about flaunting ones's wealth or wanting nice jewelry. I think a better comparison would be to owning a high end sports car, or a very nice bike for that matter. It's not that anyone necessarily needs this stuff, but that they enjoy its capabilities and marvel at what it takes to create something so sophisticated. Kind of like appreciating art.
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Old 09-17-10, 07:31 AM   #340
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It doesn't suit you. You shouldn't wear a watch bigger than your wrist.
I was gonna say....the lugs on that thing stick out like a roof rack. That's a really poor design. Just goes to show that more expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.
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hideous, not to mention cheesy.

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Over $5000 for a watch? That's a little steep, I think. And people who wear $5000 watches are the very definition of poseur - They wear something that's not as good as a quartz Timex, but looks "like a watch."

Both Presidents Bush as well as Clinton wore Timex watches. I wear an Invicta that looks like a Rolex Submariner, but keeps better time and cost 1/100th as much.
they wore them while they were active politicians, to appease the proletariat who think that "people who wear $5000 watches are the very definition of poseur", etc.

take a look at what they're wearing now.
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A cheap Timex digital watch is all anyone really needs to tell the time. To be sure, there is a lot of vanity among some or many people who purchase high end watches, but there are a LOT of people in the watch world who are fascinated by the precision engineering it takes to make an automatic watch. They'll spend a fortune a watch that most of the planet would never recognize, so it's not just about flaunting ones's wealth or wanting nice jewelry. I think a better comparison would be to owning a high end sports car, or a very nice bike for that matter. It's not that anyone necessarily needs this stuff, but that they enjoy its capabilities and marvel at what it takes to create something so sophisticated. Kind of like appreciating art.
i agree, and while there are some gaudy easily recognizable big brand watches out there, there are plenty of boutique watchmakers who's watches would not be recognized by anyone other than another watch aficionado. to me it makes sense to pay good money for a fine handcrafted piece of micro machinery.
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A cheap Timex digital watch is all anyone really needs to tell the time. To be sure, there is a lot of vanity among some or many people who purchase high end watches, but there are a LOT of people in the watch world who are fascinated by the precision engineering it takes to make an automatic watch. They'll spend a fortune a watch that most of the planet would never recognize, so it's not just about flaunting ones's wealth or wanting nice jewelry. I think a better comparison would be to owning a high end sports car, or a very nice bike for that matter. It's not that anyone necessarily needs this stuff, but that they enjoy its capabilities and marvel at what it takes to create something so sophisticated. Kind of like appreciating art.
Good answer.

But a watch? It's like being impressed with how many angels can fit on the head of a pin or an especially nice ship in a bottle. I'm an ME and a researcher and have been lucky enough to work on some amazing engineering projects. People have no sense of perspective. The technology that goes into a jet engine or a cell phone is infinitely more impressive than any watch ever made. The manufacturing processes that mass produce high quality, affordable watches probably much better represent human ingenuity than the watches themselves. Ditto for cars. I've been a sports car buff all my life and have owned several. At least they provide visceral as well as intellectual excitement. I'll never understand art though. Our local museum has a large Jasper Johns collection. What a load of crap.
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Good answer.

But a watch? It's like being impressed with how many angels can fit on the head of a pin or an especially nice ship in a bottle. I'm an ME and a researcher and have been lucky enough to work on some amazing engineering projects. People have no sense of perspective. The technology that goes into a jet engine or a cell phone is infinitely more impressive than any watch ever made. The manufacturing processes that mass produce high quality, affordable watches probably much better represent human ingenuity than the watches themselves. Ditto for cars. I've been a sports car buff all my life and have owned several. At least they provide visceral as well as intellectual excitement. I'll never understand art though.
Our local museum has a large Jasper Johns collection. What a load of crap.
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I forgot to add, to me the most impressive thing about Rolex is the advertising to gullible people. It's so much like the bike trade. Their adds talk about what great stainless steel they use, or some special coating on a bezel, or that it's waterproof to 1000m, like these are actually important in some way.

A few years ago I read an interview with the guy who started Invicta. He said that even their higher end watches, and those of other makers, cost only about $10-$15 to make because of all the precision automation in the manufacturing processes. So when somebody buys an expensive watch sans precious metals and jewels, what are you really paying for. The answer should be obvious.
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I forgot to add, to me the most impressive thing about Rolex is the advertising to gullible people. It's so much like the bike trade. Their adds talk about what great stainless steel they use, or some special coating on a bezel, or that it's waterproof to 1000m, like these are actually important in some way.

A few years ago I read an interview with the guy who started Invicta. He said that even their higher end watches, and those of other makers, cost only about $10-$15 to make because of all the precision automation in the manufacturing processes. So when somebody buys an expensive watch sans precious metals and jewels, what are you really paying for. The answer should be obvious.
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I forgot to add, to me the most impressive thing about Rolex is the advertising to gullible people. bla bla bla.

we get it. you don't like nice watches. let it go.
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we get it. you don't like nice watches. let it go.
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... cost only about $10-$15 to make
have you been to switzerland, i dont think you could make a paper airplane there for 10-15 dollars, if you were given the sheet of paper.
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