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Old 07-16-08, 02:21 PM   #1
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So, if kickstands are dorky unless you're a utility cyclist...

Are touring stands dorky too? You know, like centerstands? Sixty's Trek has one, maybe he'll post a picture...

Looking at building a fixie and laying it down or leaning it on walls will suck if I get it painted the way I want.
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Old 07-16-08, 02:37 PM   #2
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You know about oxymorons, right Crank? Hot chili, jumbo shrimp, military intelligence? You can add "fixie with a kickstand/centerstand" to the list. I do not believe this is allowed.

If you're up for a quick disembowelment, run this by the SS/FG crowd. That should be entertaining.

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Old 07-16-08, 02:48 PM   #3
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I don't care what a bunch of dumb hipsters on thirty year old bright green Varsity's with mismatched wheels and pink bartape who wear their sister's jeans have to say about it.

Besides, this bike will have two brakes and a flip flop hub. I'm not counting on a big lot of fixie rep
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Old 07-16-08, 02:53 PM   #4
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Looking at building a fixie and laying it down or leaning it on walls will suck if I get it painted the way I want.
Don't get a snazzy fancy paintjob on a bike that's going to see utility duty.
Get a cheap powdercoat job done to it; it's clean and it adds some additional scuff resistance. Costs under $150, so it's really not a serious bite in the wallet if it gets a little bit scuffed after a while.
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Old 07-16-08, 02:54 PM   #5
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Are touring stands dorky too?
Yes. The more important question is whether or not you care.
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Old 07-16-08, 02:55 PM   #6
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I think three or four kickstands should do the trick
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Old 07-16-08, 02:59 PM   #7
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Don't get a snazzy fancy paintjob on a bike that's going to see utility duty.
Get a cheap powdercoat job done to it; it's clean and it adds some additional scuff resistance. Costs under $150, so it's really not a serious bite in the wallet if it gets a little bit scuffed after a while.
Utility as far as commuting, and it'll get parked in a storage room...
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Old 07-16-08, 03:00 PM   #8
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Yes. The more important question is whether or not you care.
As much as I don't want to, I always end up caring.
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Old 07-16-08, 03:25 PM   #9
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Utility as far as commuting, and it'll get parked in a storage room...
A secure storage room which only you have access to? If not, count on other people leaning things against it, or moving it around and scratching up your nice new paintjob. I'm still voting for powdercoating.
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Old 07-16-08, 03:30 PM   #10
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Kickstands are useless unless you are touring with 50lbs+ on your panniers. A good way to avoid scratches on the frame is to lean the bike against something by the tire. You'll never think about a kickstand again.

EDIT: I should specify the rear tire as you may have less success trying it with the front.

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Old 07-16-08, 04:02 PM   #11
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Google flickstand. It keeps the front tire from turning, so you can lean the bike against things. I really like mine. They don't make them anymore, but you can find some on eBay.

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Old 07-16-08, 05:18 PM   #13
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When this comes back to life it'll be with a flip-flop hub (maybe a Schlumpf bottom bracket too).
It has a double legged kickstand. That'll stay.

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That's what I wanted, actually.

How does it attach?
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When this comes back to life it'll be with a flip-flop hub (maybe a Schlumpf bottom bracket too).
FWIW, that'll work as long as it's a free/free flip-flop. I looked into Schlumpf stuff a while back as an idea for a two-speed fixed-gear, but they're pretty adamant that the design of their cranks won't stand up to the extra stresses a fixed-gear drivetrain would exert.
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i have to now because of the battery weight
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Old 07-16-08, 06:04 PM   #17
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FWIW, that'll work as long as it's a free/free flip-flop. I looked into Schlumpf stuff a while back as an idea for a two-speed fixed-gear, but they're pretty adamant that the design of their cranks won't stand up to the extra stresses a fixed-gear drivetrain would exert.
Damnit. Well, it'll be just a flip-flop then. Damnit.
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So, Allen, does the frame have to be drilled for that kickstand? If I could just run it when I had the panniers on it that'd be nice.
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That's what I wanted, actually.

How does it attach?
The top of the kick stand is flat and threaded for a large bolt.
You place that under the chainstays right behind the bottom bracket.
The bolt is long and has a wedged shaped, heavy "washer". It goes on top of the chain stays.
When you crank the bolt the whole thing pressure fits and locks into place.
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No drilling needed.
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Do you have a pic of the set up?

Thanks Allen.
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The wedge and flap top of the kickstand are visible in the above image.
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Old 07-16-08, 06:12 PM   #23
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So, would it be feasible to remove it when the bike has no load?
Oh yeah, bit of a PITA because you need to remove the rear wheel to get to the lock bolt on a bike that does not have crazy long chainstays like the bomber.
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It tucks away just like a regular kickstand. No need to take it off except for looks.
The legs fold together and store on one side of the bike, it looks basically like a regular kickstand folded.
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Eh, that's what QR skewers are for. Thanks for the help.
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